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Is Dodge Missing Out Moving Away From The Traditional V8 Muscle Car?

Ford Continues With V8, Will It Take Dodge Fan With It?

A month ago at the Detroit Auto Show, Ford Motor Company (FoMoCo) unveiled its seventh-generation Ford Mustang (S650) lineup. To much surprise, Ford ditched its original plans of offering all-wheel-drive (AWD) and hybrid technology, in favor of the traditional rear-wheel-drive (RWD), V8 muscle car formula. And without a single production unit rolling off of the Flat Rock Assembly Plant line yet, FoMoCo has not only created a ton of buzz for its upcoming model with Dodge clearly in its crosshairs.

2024 Ford Mustang GT Coupe. (Ford).

With rumors surrounding Chevrolet Camaro coming to an end after 2023, it leaves the focus between Dodge and FoMoCo in a head-to-head battle in the American muscle car segment.

2024 Ford Mustang GT Coupe. (Ford).

Unlike Ford, Dodge has completely different plans for its 2024+ Dodge Challenger and Charger. Moving forward with electrification, Dodge looks to use electrification as more of an evolution of performance rather than a saving the planet move. To help put all those “kilowatts” down, both cars will continue to offer AWD variants. 

Dodge Charger Daytona SRT Banshee Concept. (Dodge).

Dodge claims that it will offer up to at least three core electrified variants (each available with three different performance upgrades through its Direct Connection catalog). Seem satisfying enough to make the jump to electric?

If not, Dodge has yet to confirm it, but it will still offer internal combustion engines (ICEs) as well. But don’t expect a HEMI V8 to be under the hood. Instead, we should see both variants of the new turbocharged 3.0-liter Hurricane I6 engines, now found in the Jeep® Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. Both I6 engines make both more horsepower and torque and produce 15% fewer emissions than the HEMI V8 engines they replace. The latter part is more of the reason for the move to I6 engines.

Dodge Charger Daytona SRT Banshee Concept. (Dodge).

The change in the traditional muscle car formula has a lot of Dodge loyalists on edge. Since Ford’s announcement, social media has been blowing up with fans in both camps praising Ford for continuing to push the traditional muscle car values forward.

Hopefully, Dodge is listening to its fan base.

Dodge Charger Daytona SRT Banshee Concept. (Dodge).

On a positive note, Dodge has been good about building upon its vehicles as they continue in production. The current L-Series cars are a perfect example of that, with a 425 horsepower 6.1-liter (370 cubic inch) HEMI V8 being the top powertrain choice early on.

Since then, we have seen an 840 horsepower supercharged 6.2-liter (376 cubic inch) Demon HEMI V8 making its way into the Challenger SRT Demon. Rumors have the L-Series going out with a big bang, with a 909 horsepower in another drag racing-oriented model coming later this year.

We can only hope, that some type of V8 will return to a future Dodge muscle car. Kind of makes us wish that Dodge would have kept the V8 and gone the hydrogen route. But we do look forward to seeing more innovation from Dodge in the future.

 

Robert S. Miller

Robert S. Miller is a diehard Mopar enthusiast who lives and breathes all that is Mopar. The Michigander is not only the Editor for MoparInsiders.com, 5thGenRams.com, and HDRams.com but an automotive photographer. He is an avid fan of offshore powerboat racing, which he travels the country to take part in.

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It’ll be interesting to see what the market is going to prove in the first couple of years, of when it goes on sale.

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As with anything in life, change is going to bring exactly that. You may loose a few Die Hard V8 fans, but not necessarily the entire Dodge fanbase. There have been several moments in history where only one of the brands had V8 performance offerings and for a long time, Dodge did not have a performance V8 offering and still had exciting offerings in the market. I still remember the SRT4 cars, which were nasty performance vehicles for their time. I really feel like this new Hurricane-6 is going to continue on from the roots of where SRT started. Anyone who knows performance knows that turbo cars make alot of power and torque when modified. Think of the 2JZ-GTE, the RB26DETT or even the S55 engine in the M82 BMW M3. Figuring with Direct Connection involved there are going to be factory backed stage kits similar to what Dodge did with the SRT4. I think this and the new car are going to add more enthusiasts to the brand.

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Dodge first off might not have abandoned V-8 power, but it was not their decision, it was Stellantis that made that decision. I believe Stellantis has bought into the green movement’s hysteria and that will be regretted if the current thinking prevails. Tragic thinking in my opinion.
What can one say, Dodge has little choice as “Eurothink” once again just does not get “Americathink”. Nothing new there, it’s just a diffent culture, set of experiences and corporate calls the shots. Dodge is doing the best they can, Tim has been given marching orders and is selling a pig in a poke with a forced smile and feel good talking points that keep those paychecks coming, who can blame him? I’d do exactly the same thing.
For me, my Hemi is going nowhere but I’ll give the new stuff a chance, probably a big chance because I love Dodge and like everyone else rooting for Dodge, as Caesar once said when crossing the Rubicon , “the dye is cast.”

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I for one am tired of the perpetual moaning and groaning about the demise of V8 engines when Stellantis are funding development of vehicles that are relevant to 21st century motoring. Things like I6 engines that are more powerful, more economical and produce less CO2 than V8s, and interesting new segment entrants like the Hornet.

Get over it, and enjoy what is about to be unleashed by Stellantis.

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I give dodge about another 2-3 years before the brand is axed or sold off. Their customer base doesn't want a modern 67 charger that sounds like a vacuum cleaner. I for one will never own an EV and if that's they way they are going, they are dead to me. Most of the people online that currently own a Dodge V8 feel the same. I'm not talking about 10 year old keyboard warriors. They are fools to think that everyone is just gonna go all in to electrification especially with the many downfalls.

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