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Next generation charger?

Have you tried to use the back seat of Mustang.... it for show. the front isn't fine it tight. They are not comfortable GT in anyway.
 
redriderbob said:
2022 and 2023 model year will be the same body style... 2024 Charger and Challenger will be ALL NEW!
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Once again Chrysler is late to party! This must be the third or fourth 'delay' announcement on the 300[Not]/Charger/Challenger new model rollout! Every FCA model in the past has been delayed delayed delayed! Spoiler Alert: The Canadian UAW had a rough time getting a contract for the Brampton Plant and only got a three year extension. Since Biden is promoting a $12k discount credit on American {UAW only) electric vehicles and Chargers & Challenger models moving to the States, I am not holding out hope for Brampton!
 
TripleT said:
Have you tried to use the back seat of Mustang.... it for show. the front isn't fine it tight. They are not comfortable GT in anyway.
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Did you read my post? Yes, the back is small, the front and trunk are not. Maybe compared to the poor visibility cave of the Chally the Mustang front seats feel tiny but not in general. Lets not over exaggerate the practicality of the Challenger - its a cinderblock on wheels. I do love it but it's far from the perfect practical coup its being imagined to be. Magneride is great on the Ford.
 
The market place is calling and it no exaggeration that the Mustang is damn small. It damn small in the back it damn small in the front. I cargo is poor given the trunk. The Challenger works because it large interior for the class and it a proper sized vehicle. My daughters 500 is more comfortable then a Mustang. It like your talking to someone on Ford forum trying to talk Ford into not cancelling the little race car. E-bodies and LX have made there days on being a more practical car.

Mustang is a better Track car by a good amount so the size has purpose. But that market is pretty small, and you can find a driver that can keep it off the curb.
 
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justbekuz said:
Once again Chrysler is late to party! This must be the third or fourth 'delay' announcement on the 300[Not]/Charger/Challenger new model rollout! Every FCA model in the past has been delayed delayed delayed! Spoiler Alert: The Canadian UAW had a rough time getting a contract for the Brampton Plant and only got a three year extension. Since Biden is promoting a $12k discount credit on American {UAW only) electric vehicles and Chargers & Challenger models moving to the States, I am not holding out hope for Brampton!
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YEAH they should have dumped there very popular and very profitable current model that despite the trend against proper cars have each year gotten better and more potent. For something new in the aging and old Renault plant.

New Flash anyone who has been paying attention the last decade will note that each new model launch has been in a new capacity allowing a seamless transition from the outgoing model to the incoming model. I am overjoyed they are going to make new cars, that the old one will be available, good on Belvedere.

Maybe now Brampton can get a proper repurposing.

(note that they did propose several times something that would work on the carrier but never achieved ROI given continued success of the current model)
 
Very impressive milestone. Who would have said this 10 years ago?
 
I disagree that the Challenger has stayed true to its roots. Sure the high performance packages hearken back to glory days, but then Dodge went and offered AWD. Pony cars are supposed to be nasty in the slippery stuff like snow and slush. Mustang has always been a three season car. The first generation Camaro could be driven in winter weather with enough weight in the trunk, but those monoleaf springs were fragile.

Very few people know how capable the AWD Challenger is in the snow. Real pony cars get stuck.
 
patfromigh said:
I disagree that the Challenger has stayed true to its roots. Sure the high performance packages hearken back to glory days, but then Dodge went and offered AWD. Pony cars are supposed to be nasty in the slippery stuff like snow and slush. Mustang has always been a three season car. The first generation Camaro could be driven in winter weather with enough weight in the trunk, but those monoleaf springs were fragile.

Very few people know how capable the AWD Challenger is in the snow. Real pony cars get stuck.
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It's the styling we are referring to. Then again the performance of new today is even better. Todays Challenger has something to fit all the different consumers. Todays Challenger has CHOICES and is not just one model.
The worst possible car is a Fox Body Mustang in wet weather and I cannot imagine what that car be like (but WORST) in snow with that solid live axle and tail happy rear end = most deadly car to drive. Don't ask how I know this.o_O
I don't know if the AWD Challenger is very capable in snow like other vehicles out their with AWD and more height.
 
patfromigh said:
I disagree that the Challenger has stayed true to its roots. Sure the high performance packages hearken back to glory days, but then Dodge went and offered AWD. Pony cars are supposed to be nasty in the slippery stuff like snow and slush. Mustang has always been a three season car. The first generation Camaro could be driven in winter weather with enough weight in the trunk, but those monoleaf springs were fragile.

Very few people know how capable the AWD Challenger is in the snow. Real pony cars get stuck.
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As long as it’s RWD-biased, it’s still a muscle car.
The current generation Challenger is big to be considered a pony car.
 
What makes Dodge so American is its interior space. Still it's not not the best packaging in the whole industry, actually far from it,but car like Challenger still has usable interior space which can't be said for direct competitors.
 
I have driven an AWD Challenger in the snow. It does pretty well, and is also an excellent wet weather car. The Hemi powered Challengers have to be driven very carefully on slick surfaces. This is based on my experience with our fleet.
 
TripleT said:
Mine Charger hasn't left the Garage since it snowed.... Its horrible in low grip driving.
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I only recently went back to 4 season tires, on my 09 Challenger R/T, and these are BFG Comp 2 A/S, so I can drive it in bad weather "just in case." Otherwise, it hasn't seen any snow, nor much bad weather, since I drove it home in January 2009. It's practically a vampire in winter. I don't even put it on the road if there's salt residue if I can avoid it. That said, with a manual, I can at least shift into a higher gear to help with slippage.
 
Tony K said:
I only recently went back to 4 season tires, on my 09 Challenger R/T, and these are BFG Comp 2 A/S, so I can drive it in bad weather "just in case." Otherwise, it hasn't seen any snow, nor much bad weather, since I drove it home in January 2009. It's practically a vampire in winter. I don't even put it on the road if there's salt residue if I can avoid it. That said, with a manual, I can at least shift into a higher gear to help with slippage.
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Wouldn't the auto transmission be alot better in snow?
 
Tony K said:
I only recently went back to 4 season tires, on my 09 Challenger R/T, and these are BFG Comp 2 A/S, so I can drive it in bad weather "just in case." Otherwise, it hasn't seen any snow, nor much bad weather, since I drove it home in January 2009. It's practically a vampire in winter. I don't even put it on the road if there's salt residue if I can avoid it. That said, with a manual, I can at least shift into a higher gear to help with slippage.
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Got my son some Cooper SUV tire for his Challenger for his birthday. Make it usable, he still got a salvage JK to drive when it bad.
 
TripleT said:
Got my son some Cooper SUV tire for his Challenger for his birthday. Make it usable, he still got a salvage JK to drive when it bad.
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My Grand Cherokee has Yokohama Geolandar A/Ts from 2015, and are good on snow and slick roads in general. The newest version of that tire, the G015, is a 3PMSF "All Weather" tire. That's the tire I will most likely go to when it needs reshod.
 
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