Stellantis Post It’s Sales Numbers For The U.S. In Q3 2024!

Call me an optimist and emotionally detached from the facts, but do i think these numbers are not all that bad. Now that does not make them acceptable or encouraging, but not the bell weather of bankruptcy or collapse. Why do you hold this opinion Mopar Willy ? When you end production on such popular vehicles as the Chrysler 300, the Dodge Challenger, the Jeep Cherokee and Renegade without immediate replacements in hand, why the shock? I agree incredibly incompetent leadership and decision making, I agree too high pricing and price gouging by dealers, I agree too much faith and resources committed to the electrification scam, but in spite of it all, the aging product has been showing decent resilience, if not acceptable numbers.
Call me whatever, but panicked should not be one of them.
Oh yes, Tavares must go.

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Stellantis Post It’s Sales Numbers For Canada In Q3 2024!​

Overall Canadian Sales Have Decreased By 23% Compared To 2023 Results...​

Stellantis (FCA Canada) reported a total of 31,112 vehicles sold in the third quarter of 2024, reflecting a 23% decline compared to the same period last year. This sales performance was influenced by strategic adjustments to inventory levels, aligning production with market demand.

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AS a person knowing many people( FRIENDS!!!) at aka Chrysler or what's left of it? in White collar jobs! and also in UAW leadership! and myself an ex 10 year employee, and also my father (rest his soul!) that gave 45 years to Chrysler all the way through the FCA leaders! it is sad to see a Company being led by people in Europe that do not know the passions of Americans at all! The Chrysler group, or FCA, or whatever they try to call it now? has a ton of problems and don't blame the Political Liberal push for Electrics! because GM, and Ford, are able to navigate and keep making ICE upgrades! and even new ice engines! and what does Stale-lantist do? come out with a EV charger first??????????? just one of the bad European leaders decisions! Fiat, Alfa, Maserati and the Peugeot vehicles etc. are their true Loves! Jeep, and Ram, are the cash cows for those brands! (but maybe not for Fiat, or Peugeot?)

Sadly Chrysler? & Dodge? =1 Minivan, a Durango, and an Alfa made slow selling cookie cutter jelly bean Dodge hornet. that's only 3 current made vehicles in dealerships right NOW! between 2 brands!!!!! (wonder why sales are tanking?)

Mistakes made since Sergio, and after! (not in any order) #1 taking the Dodge name off the Trucks #2-trying to turn Chrysler into Plymouth #3 killing the 300 sedan on purpose! ( it did not have a lack of customers! waiting on a new one! I was one. ) with not one upgrade since 2015 and then not even having a replacement being engineered at the same time as the new EV Charger, and the Money!!! was there to do this! ( There is no American large sedan from Ford, or GM that exist! (the caddy CT5 is a midsize car.) this is a total missed opportunity!

#4 Plans on turning Chrysler all EV??? with only the ICE mini, and Hybrid mini? Stupid! #5 letting Chrysler go down to one vehicle? this had been in the works before Stale-lantist! I was hoping Stale-lantist would see the ignorance of FCA on this? #6 taking away the elegant Town& Country name off the Chrysler minivan! #7 killing the Dodge Caravan then flip flopping and trying to bring it back with a Chrysler name on it? Dodge had no problem selling Chargers, Challengers, and Durango's, along with a Minivan with their name on it!-(example-Chevy and Ford make powerful stuff! as well as everyday vehicles!) #8 killing the Dodge journey with No replacement for over 2 years plus! then giving the USA a jelly bean (YAWN!) cookie cutter Hornet!

#9-Bean counters in Europe deciding to kill the New 2 door Challenger that was supposed to be made with the new 4 door Charger as we were told for 3 years! on this site, and others, and from the people I know in Canada ( relatives! at Chrysler) now the Mustang has no competition at all! the 2 door Charger EV and later turbo 6's is not a Mustang competitor! and damn the Charger is 5,838 pounds that's almost 6000 pounds!!!! and about 1500 pounds more than the previous V8-powered Charger. ( just think folks? GM with no Camaro in 2025! think what a new ICE Challenger could of done against the Mustang!!!! )

#10-getting rid of Dodge, and Ram, brands CEO Tim Kuniskis! (Tim spoke up folks!) Folks if you think Tim retired on his own? Like the saying goes! I got a bridge to sale you! Tim was forced out! why? this is what I was told by several folks I know as Friends at Auburn Hills HQ! Tim did not want the Hornet! he hated it's jelly bean cookie cutter design! he was overruled on this! he also wanted the new Charger to be Ice first! and he wanted the a new Challenger but the design and plans were tossed! in favor of again saving money, it then turned into a 2 door Charger because of Funding decisions from Europe leaders micromanaging Auburn Hills! Tim also wanted the hellcats offered in the new vehicles, he was okay with the 5.7 hemi being discontinued and but he wanted the new turbo' 6's to replace the Pentastar V6 along with the high powered hellcats to the EV's for a complete offering! for years to come! this would of satisfied Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards till the beginning 2030's! Again! think! folks Tim had just been named CEO of Ram then WHAM!!!!!! a few months later they! not him announce he's suddenly retiring? ( he's still young MAN????? think! )

#11-Stripping research, engineering, from Auburn Hills, and micromanaging decision making from Auburn Hills HQ management! this has led to a very Low morale! in the house that Lee Iacocca built! in Auburn Hills! and then the plans to possibly sell it?? the iconic HQ! with that Pentastar at the top! these rumors wont quit! and Stale-lantist is at fault! JOBS are being bled! every month! #12-following the stupid strategy of Sergio Marchionne to not make a different version of like Vehicles for the different brands, example the Wagoneer should of had a Dodge-(sporty design) and Chrysler (bold design) counterparts! same with the Grand Cherokee which Chrysler should have had a version of! Facts-the 300, and Charger did not doom each other!!!!! they were different choices, for different taste! in the same Showroom! and it gets more over all sales!!!!!!!! not one 7 slot jeep look everything! cause the Wagoneer plant is cutting shifts as the Ram classic is gone, and about 60k =/- Wagoneers will be made in 2024 that is not enough for a plant that can produce 200k vehicles plus! why does sales of one vehicle in a brand? trump sales of 3 different vehicles you could of made! all with different customers, with different wants ,and taste, I bet if Dodge, and Chrysler, had a version of the Wagoneer, production would be over 100k right now! Chrysler taking on upscale GMC, Hyundai, Nissan, etc. and the Dodge version competing against Chevy, Ford, etc. leaving the Grand/Wagoneer to battle with Caddy/Lincoln/Lexus/Range Rover etc. but Sergios mandate still seems to ring true! despite the Charger, and 300, that were in the same showroom proving him wrong! people walk in your show room you got 3 Large SUV flavors to keep them there! not the one fits all Jeep look!!!!!!!! #13-killing the V8 in the new Ram 1500 will haunt the hell out em! I don't care about the power of the 6's do you see GM, or Ford, doing that????? there is a very, very, large Light duty truck customer base that want a 1500 with a V8! enough said! stupid decision made where???? I'll bet not in Auburn Hills! #14 delay, after delay, for North American product! a new Chrysler when? now they say 2025? the dealers have said they don't even have a sedan to sell! except left over old design 2023 Chargers, and a few old 300's. that folks loses Customers that want a sedan! Like me! and the EV Charger no thanks! at $61k!!!! and up, and it's not the elegant!!! look! me, and my wife, want at 60 years old plus each!

#15 FCA, before Stale-lantist taking Chryslers museum away! and giving it to Maserati??? this clearly shows no respect for any of Chryslers heritage and the people that gave their life of work to it! this was a slap in the face!

So in ending, again I talk to friends, and relatives, every week that are still at Chrysler plants, in supply etc. and the HQ, and it just makes me sad, I will just pray but I'm not encouraged at all by what I see happening in the news, and what I hear from the Inside! before that news! my Father had a lot of friends at Chrysler who are still in high places! with his 45+ years! and again yes I talk to em! mine, and his, and our relatives. Union, and white collar management Friends and they are very disillusioned with Stale-lantist enough said! oh yeah watch out Ralph Gilles! design could be next?

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The automotive industry has often (second half of the 20th and start of the 21st century) leading indicator of recession.

My prediction is that this year, due to the never-ending price increases and how every car seems to be a lux car with bells and whistles, that the automotive industry will fall harder than the reset of the economy.

The questions; will OEMs
* Do a 1980s thing and go small/less expensive to meet consumers where they can be
* Just suck it up butter cup and keep trying to sell high profit vehicles to fewer ppl with fewer staff to try to keep shareholders happy
* Merge
* Try to go back to ICE to try to get more buyers
* Try to make EVs cheaper to attract a second wave of BEVers
* Try to break into other markets (marine, commercial, etc especially in the BEV market)

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