Ram Shows Its 2025 Heavy Duty Before Official Unveiling

redriderbob · Sep 24, 2024

WXman · Sep 25, 2024

They don't mind showing it off because we saw that truck 17 years ago. Nothing to hide.

I'm still holding out hope of seeing a new Ram HD lineup before I'm in a nursing home one day. I believe it can happen!

ipa0628 · Sep 25, 2024

Ram used to have a nice simple design to their grills. Now it looks like they hired the Toyota, Tonka toys castoffs.

1960D500 · Sep 25, 2024

Oh Wow I think the truck looked better with the camo covers, especially that goofie grill in the Rebel talk about going from bad to worse.

Remind me again how this is better that the crosshair grills.

Sure better have a much improved drive train of at least 525 HP and 1200 plus torgue.

They need a new design already going to be the same old cabs for 2 decades.

scatpack_69 · Sep 25, 2024

Tradesman looks ok. The red Laramie….kinda on. Not a fan of the quad headlight look. The Rebel is an embarrassment

redriderbob · Dec 4, 2024

2025 Ram Heavy Duty Set for Major Cummins Diesel Update

Sources Reveal Big Changes to the 6.7-Liter Cummins Turbodiesel...

Ram is preparing to introduce its refreshed 2025 Ram 2500 and 3500 Heavy Duty trucks, and the biggest changes lie beneath the surface. While the exterior gets updated front-end styling and the interior receives minor improvements, the 6.7-liter Cummins turbodiesel engine is set to undergo significant upgrades to enhance its performance, efficiency, and durability.

2025 Ram Heavy Duty Set for Major Cummins Diesel Update

Ram is preparing to introduce its refreshed 2025 Ram 2500 and 3500 Heavy Duty trucks, and the biggest changes lie beneath the surface. While the exterior gets updated front-end styling and the interior receives minor improvements, the 6.7-liter Cummins turbodiesel engine is set to undergo...

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bill burke · Dec 4, 2024

We need all the good news we can get. Let’s not forget that some good things were in the pipeline in spite of the fiasco of the Carlos era. Styling somewhat confusing, but likely a low tier issue compared to the major improvements from Cummins. Let’s celebrate the good that lies beneath the firestorm of criticism.

tigerseye · Dec 5, 2024

WTF did they do to that grill? Seriously. Ram designers must be on drugs these days. And the Stellantis saga continues. Do minor upgrades, then tack on $13000 to the original 2500/3500 price points. A non- starter for me.

scatpack_69 · Sunday at 4:33 PM

tigerseye said:
WTF did they do to that grill? Seriously. Ram designers must be on drugs these days. And the Stellantis saga continues. Do minor upgrades, then tack on $13000 to the original 2500/3500 price points. A non- starter for me.

Tack on 13k?? Diesel has always been a premium option. You clearly don’t need a diesel and are just here to complain about…..nothing. Be better.

I’m hearing new Cummins is supposed to be same torque and a 10hp bump. That’s not enough. Jesus your compete is rocking with 500/1200, it should have been 460 minimum. We shall see I suppose but 430 ain’t enough to steal sales.

This is what happened when you slap a transmission in that isn’t rated high enough.

Goddammit. You fools had a golden opportunity and failed, again. Son of a bi**h

WXman · Sunday at 5:22 PM

They went to a CP4 pump and tried to overspeed it to meet their targets and that caused even more broken down trucks. Then they went away from the CP4 but added hydraulic lifters and then that started creating broken down trucks. Now they are changing things again. What will break now? And for crying out loud, my 6 year old Ford diesel came with 450 HP and a conservatively rated 945 lb/ft. What is going on at Cummins? Have they given up?

TripleT · Monday at 5:06 AM

If its not a V8, throw it in the lake.... How can we possible compete without a V8. Ford and GM have V8s. We all know the only way to make power is with V8, the consumer will never except this model unless it has V8, we really need the durability of V8 to compete.

I thought was the standard response when a new straight 6

scatpack_69 · Monday at 10:39 PM

TripleT said:
If its not a V8, throw it in the lake.... How can we possible compete without a V8. Ford and GM have V8s. We all know the only way to make power is with V8, the consumer will never except this model unless it has V8, we really need the durability of V8 to compete.

I thought was the standard response when a new straight 6

No idiot. You’re still too stupid to be in the discussion.

Inline 6 GAS falls short by every conceivable metric compared to a gas V8. If you lack the intelligence to understand the basic differences between gas and diesel, kindly bow out. Idiot.

WXman · Tuesday at 5:06 AM

TripleT said:
If its not a V8, throw it in the lake.... How can we possible compete without a V8. Ford and GM have V8s. We all know the only way to make power is with V8, the consumer will never except this model unless it has V8, we really need the durability of V8 to compete.

I thought was the standard response when a new straight 6

Exactly. You are finally getting it.

TripleT · Tuesday at 5:08 AM

Do you understand the term false correlation? V8s are on lots collecting DUST. That is not the problem, And NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would trade a Cummins Straight six for a Ford or GM V8 diesel.

patfromigh · Tuesday at 7:43 AM

I spent some wheel time in one of our Dodge Challengers last night. This particular unit was built close to the final run. The quality of that car was terrible. Most of it due to poor choice of supplier parts. Comparing that Challenger with an older model with even more miles a person can easily see the decline in quality and durability.

Stellantis has the gall to charge a bunch more money for this. That is the reason for the graph in post #14, not the lack of a V8.

TripleT · Tuesday at 7:53 AM

patfromigh said:
I spent some wheel time in one of our Dodge Challengers last night. This particular unit was built close to the final run. The quality of that car was terrible. Most of it due to poor choice of supplier parts. Comparing that Challenger with an older model with even more miles a person can easily see the decline in quality and durability.

Stellantis has the gall to charge a bunch more money for this. That is the reason for the graph in post #14, not the lack of a V8.

Note that my stolen Charger was not replaced by a new 24' Charger. I am as Partisan as they come, why would I replace my mint 16' with a poorer built version of the car I lost at twice the cost? Also not paying more to be embarrassed by the new model.

WXman · Tuesday at 9:56 AM

TripleT said:
Do you understand the term false correlation? V8s are on lots collecting DUST. That is not the problem, And NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would trade a Cummins Straight six for a Ford or GM V8 diesel.

1) V8s are collecting dust? Where? Because it's hard to find a new Charger/Challenger/Ram with a V8 around here. Just about all that's left are Hellkittens, and that's because of price. And ask the main competitors who make cars and trucks with V8s for 2025 how nice their sales are right now. They're doing just fine.....because they update their product AND build the engines people want. They don't let their product rot on the vine for 15 years and then announce that the only redeeming quality they've got left, the Hemi, is also going away.

2) The Cummins is legendary, but in recent years it has been a joke. Large numbers, and I mean large numbers, of failures due to fuel systems, hydraulic lifters, grid heaters, etc. They are about to do yet ANOTHER revamp of the engine for 2025 to try and cure some issues. By contrast, the Ford 6.7L is rock solid. Almost zero common issues with those. Hot shot truckers are putting 500k miles on them before even turning wrenches. I saw one last month with 700k miles and it finally let a head gasket go. You will never see that with a Cummins built after 2018.

TripleT · Tuesday at 10:13 AM

Thousand sit unsold, if it is going away and it is the only option y'all by you better get one, unless one is just trying to project their feeling on the greater market without any real intent to purchase.

No one trading a Cummins the fragile Ford and GM V8s

AlexB · Tuesday at 3:42 PM

WXman said:
1) V8s are collecting dust? Where? Because it's hard to find a new Charger/Challenger/Ram with a V8 around here. Just about all that's left are Hellkittens, and that's because of price. And ask the main competitors who make cars and trucks with V8s for 2025 how nice their sales are right now. They're doing just fine.....because they update their product AND build the engines people want. They don't let their product rot on the vine for 15 years and then announce that the only redeeming quality they've got left, the Hemi, is also going away.

2) The Cummins is legendary, but in recent years it has been a joke. Large numbers, and I mean large numbers, of failures due to fuel systems, hydraulic lifters, grid heaters, etc. They are about to do yet ANOTHER revamp of the engine for 2025 to try and cure some issues. By contrast, the Ford 6.7L is rock solid. Almost zero common issues with those. Hot shot truckers are putting 500k miles on them before even turning wrenches. I saw one last month with 700k miles and it finally let a head gasket go. You will never see that with a Cummins built after 2018.

They got a BUNCH of 2024 (HEMI's)models of RAM Trucks.

Ram Shows Its 2025 Heavy Duty Before Official Unveiling