Dodge Teases Next Generation Of eMuscle Cars During EV Day 2021 Presentation:

Dodge Teases Next Generation Of eMuscle Cars During EV Day 2021 Presentation:​

All-Electric Dodge Muscle Car Will Be Coming To Market In 2024...​

With the era of supercharged HEMI engines coming to an end, Stellantis made sure that the Dodge brand was 1 of the 6 brands chosen from the 14 brand portfolio to discuss its future electrified intentions during the company’s EV Day 2021 presentation. In recent interviews, Dodge CEO Tim Kuniskis promised a special surprise for Dodge enthusiasts during the event. Instead of an unveiling, we were treated with a bit of information and a teaser of the future of Dodge electrified muscle cars or eMuscle cars as they are calling it.

Dodge Teases Next Generation Of eMuscle Cars During EV Day 2021 Presentation:

With the era of supercharged HEMI engines coming to an end, Stellantis made sure that the Dodge brand was 1 of the 6 brands chosen from the 14 brand portfolio to discuss its future electrified intentions during the company's EV Day 2021 presentation. In recent interviews, Dodge CEO Tim Kuniskis...

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[Tony K]

Let private companies take care of the charging infrastructure.

The state is still responsible for having it contracted out, since it owns the facility. It's no different from the service centers like found on toll routes. I'd say if it's not close to an exit with services, it should have chargers.

 

[patfromigh]

Where in Chicago are you going that you can park a full size pickup? Doesn't sound like downtown.

I stay at a motel near a park and ride in the NW suburbs. To go downtown I use my Ventra Card. There are parking garages near McCormick Place if I want to drive all the way in to go to the autoshow, but since I'm either alone or with my son, it's cheaper to take transit to get downtown. Parking rates around the Loop are a small fortune.

 

[patfromigh]

The rest stops around here are not full service. Going westward, once a traveler goes beyond the Illinois tollways the service centers disappear going through Wisconsin and Minnesota. I can't remember what there is in Iowa, it's been awhile. Between Minneapolis and Chicago there are plenty of truck stop/ convenience stores either in combination or solo. In the last dozen years natural gas pumps have sprouted all along the corridor. Supposedly there is a similar plan for BEV charging, but I haven't seen any evidence of it.

Somebody had the idea for truck plugins to keep the diesel engines and cabs heated at rest stops in the colder climates. There was a concept proposal about 15 years ago, but nothing seems to come from it. The goal was energy conservation by reducing idling. Maybe the plan should be updated to include EV charging

The problem goes away when someone demonstrates how a convenience store can make money charging BEVs.

 

[patfromigh]

The problem goes away when someone demonstrates how a convenience store can make money charging BEVs.

Well, I was wrong about that. Convenience stores need a lot of customer turnover to have a successful operation. According to one executive, their business model is based on an average of 5 minutes for in store time for each customer. This same executive stated this when explaining why their chain won't invest in high speed charging. High speed chargers take about 30 minutes for 200-300 miles of range. It wouldn't be a good fit for the store concept.

 

[Tony K]

Well, I was wrong about that. Convenience stores need a lot of customer turnover to have a successful operation. According to one executive, their business model is based on an average of 5 minutes for in store time for each customer. This same executive stated this when explaining why their chain won't invest in high speed charging. High speed chargers take about 30 minutes for 200-300 miles of range. It wouldn't be a good fit for the store concept.

Yeah, I think the typical current urban/suburban c-store model doesn't really work for BEVs like it does for ICEs. It actually makes c-stores superfluous for "fueling," since you don't require an environmental and safety environment specifically for charging like you do for volatile fuels, don't have to remain with the vehicle in case of a failure-to-shut-off at the pump handle, etc. BEVs. C-stores on service islands along major long distance routes (Interstates, Autobahns, Motorways, etc.) would change to support charging large numbers of vehicles, perhaps, but I can foresee where most of the charging off-route will take place at places where you tend to stop anyway, like restaurants, parking lots/garages, and hotels. The one parking garage I frequented in Regensburg, Germany had a few in 2018. If you start your drive at 8 AM, drive through lunch, that's about 300 miles conservatively. If there's any sort of traffic, you're probably not going a ton faster than 70, and slow traffic means better range. Stop for lunch and recharge you and the car, relieve yourself and go. Drive another 150 miles, stop somewhere enroute and top off for 10 minutes, have afternoon coffee/tea/whatever, relieve yourself again, drive another 300 miles to the destination for the evening. That's 750 miles between breakfast and dinner, and if you're of any significant age, you're probably making a few more stops to "recycle liquids" anyway.