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Gasoline Charger production news

I saw last night that they've sold around 4,500 EV Chargers in total now. The previous model was selling more than that in a single month. I don't normally say I told ya' so... but I called this 3 years ago. Ray Charles could have seen that the Hemi is the cornerstone that all CDJR profits hinged upon. So to everybody who told me I was crazy... I told ya' so!
I think that’s about what I had dug up last I looked as well. Pitiful sales numbers.

Most of us wanted to be wrong but what we were being sold wasn’t jiving. The Daytona is still stylistically a beautiful car, but even with a Hemi I don’t think I’d buy. It just doesn’t evoke much excitement, it doesn’t draw you in. Last gen Charger just had “it”, it wasn’t close to the new Daytona on style but it had it head and shoulders above.

I still see old Chargers and smile, especially if it’s a hi-po flying by going to nab somebody. They are just GOOD looking tough looking cars. And they sound good too….🤣
 
As does the 4Xe which is the 2nd best selling PHEV in the Country 20% of Volume which is a bit misleading as it is not offered in L. Hurricane should also be offered. The Pentastar still is bread a butter.

At some point performance matters. That is the point... CAMRY is now 100% Hybrid.... how is it selling? Take Charger, add Hurricane4 and mild boast from ZF and battery just big enough for Hybrid only operations. IT will be bread and butter and embarrass a Eagle car and likely a Apache also. At some point it is about market and posing.. if the only thing your selling on is nostalgia and loud exhaust.

If Mopar continues to use the past as boat anchor they will continue to fall behind, at some point you actually have to have a competitive product not just sell on the name HEMI.
The audience and consumers for the Camry and Charger are different.

Dodge and Ram are forced to bring HEMI because people didn’t like the alternative. Period and the numbers are proving.
 
The audience and consumers for the Camry and Charger are different.

Dodge and Ram are forced to bring HEMI because people didn’t like the alternative. Period and the numbers are proving.
Ha Ha so you think that there is Volume and Cashflow where what the Mustang is? Camaro is .... You better go back and look at the numbers again.

There is ZERO ROI producing a Charger where the Camry is NOT. Look understand ... YOU have preference. YOU project your preference on the marketplace..... issue is YOU are not the Market. YOU are YOU. Would I personally own a work-a-day Charger? No but I am not most people. You are not most people.

The volume and therefore the cash flow is exactly where the Camry is... Work-a-day well styled 4 door sedan.

The Hemi was unavailable for the Ram.... how long? a Month.... seems a dubious assertion at best. Confirmation bias in the least. I bet you find a stronger correlation to not have a affordable version... say the like the Classic.

An you can make ZERO Hemi assertion on Dodge... When was the last time a ICE model was offered? 18 months ago. If anything we say the numbers go to complete crap the moment they stopped offering the V6 which makes sense since they weren't building cars anymore and shot for margin and to stretch supply. But the fact remains the 2/3rds of all Chargers sold before they stopped building them were Better looking Camrys, and Hemi cars can still be found on lots 18 month later.

Now did the Hemi drive traffic? It certainly drove theft for street takeover cars, absolutely, was it on merit after 2 decades? Beside the Hellcat. Not really. As some point it has to matter.

Right now the Marketing and reliance of the Hemi Name has become a boat anchor. It just has. I been advocating for reasonable and active marketing plan since Hurricane was released.... but hell until 5 mins ago Pepe LeCheapskate and Biden had us all driving EVs. If the Hemi is the only answer the product and company is dead. Relying on a slow, heavy, loud, thirsty, inefficient, uncompetitive, and sorry we have to face it pretty fragile is a bandaid that has gotten pretty gross after at least a decade out of its prime.
 
What the hell are you talking about? They stopped making Hemi Ram 1500 for MY2025. It's been one full calendar year since they stopped making Hemi Ram 1500s, and SHAP just started production for the 2026 Ram 1500 Hemi this week. There are ZERO (new) 2024 Ram 1500 Hemis remaining on dealer lots. Gee, it’s like people like them or something!?!?!

And Ram 1500 sales hit an all time low in the first half of 2025 once Hemi inventory dwindled- gee, I wonder why.

The existing Hemi works, it’s proven. It’s not the most sophisticated engine, but it’s cheap to make. That matters. A more complex, more expensive Hemi based on a brand new design is coming later this decade.

Complexity is a cost in of itself.
 
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