Stellantis Q3 2024 Shipments Decline Amid Inventory Cuts

I know it looks bad right now but I have a little hint of faith that the Mopar brands will be okay once Carlos is out of the picture and the North American Market can really get back into the swing of things with the new platforms and the hurricane engines. I went to a local aftermarket spot and found out (Yeah I'm a little late to the party) that there are already companies out there tuning the Hurricane engine and making some impressive gains. JB4 is advertising "up to 104whp" with just their tune on the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer and Stainless Works has a very decent exhaust system for the Ram 1500 out already so the aftermarket is truly embracing the new performance powertrain from Stellantis and making it better. Just simple math of calculated drivetrain loss, a 420hp Hurricane S.O may make about 382hp to the ground. Add 104hp and you're looking at 486hp to the ground, which roughly equates to 535hp to the crank, just 15hp shy of the 550hp Hurricane H.O. That same equation for the 550hp Hurricane 3.0L I-6 TT puts stock HP to the wheels at 500hp, add the 104hp and you're looking at roughly 604hp to the wheels or round about 664hp to the crank. Granted the site says "up to 104hp to the wheels" so yes those are max numbers, but if just a tune can do that and that can be done to the upcoming Charger six pack cars, there should be no qualms about anything. That's just a tune on a stock engine. that's no bolt ons or anything else. Make no mistake, that's impressive! When you look at it that way, this shows us just how capable some of these new Mopar vehicles are going to be when they come out with the Hurricane Six. As it stands, The Ram 1500 and Wagoneer are showing that they are impressive on the STLA: Frame Platform, but how insane will that be on the STLA Large platform with potential hurricane-6 powered vehicles being none other than the new Charger, the Durango-replacing Stealth SUV, the Wagoneer S and even the Jeep Recon. While this EV stuff may be a costly mistake, I think Stellantis can regroup a large portion of their losses with the next-gen ICE performance options and even some Direct Connection assistance along with these new vehicles.

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I know it looks bad right now but I have a little hint of faith that the Mopar brands will be okay once Carlos is out of the picture and the North American Market can really get back into the swing of things with the new platforms and the hurricane engines. I went to a local aftermarket spot and found out (Yeah I'm a little late to the party) that there are already companies out there tuning the Hurricane engine and making some impressive gains. JB4 is advertising "up to 104whp" with just their tune on the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer and Stainless Works has a very decent exhaust system for the Ram 1500 out already so the aftermarket is truly embracing the new performance powertrain from Stellantis and making it better. Just simple math of calculated drivetrain loss, a 420hp Hurricane S.O may make about 382hp to the ground. Add 104hp and you're looking at 486hp to the ground, which roughly equates to 535hp to the crank, just 15hp shy of the 550hp Hurricane H.O. That same equation for the 550hp Hurricane 3.0L I-6 TT puts stock HP to the wheels at 500hp, add the 104hp and you're looking at roughly 604hp to the wheels or round about 664hp to the crank. Granted the site says "up to 104hp to the wheels" so yes those are max numbers, but if just a tune can do that and that can be done to the upcoming Charger six pack cars, there should be no qualms about anything. That's just a tune on a stock engine. that's no bolt ons or anything else. Make no mistake, that's impressive! When you look at it that way, this shows us just how capable some of these new Mopar vehicles are going to be when they come out with the Hurricane Six. As it stands, The Ram 1500 and Wagoneer are showing that they are impressive on the STLA: Frame Platform, but how insane will that be on the STLA Large platform with potential hurricane-6 powered vehicles being none other than the new Charger, the Durango-replacing Stealth SUV, the Wagoneer S and even the Jeep Recon. While this EV stuff may be a costly mistake, I think Stellantis can regroup a large portion of their losses with the next-gen ICE performance options and even some Direct Connection assistance along with these new vehicles.

I have heard some interesting things going on behind the scenes, including whom they have been talking to about maybe being the next CEO. If its true, the company should be able to recover. But I am with you; cost-cutting Carlos needs to be gone first.

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I know it looks bad right now but I have a little hint of faith that the Mopar brands will be okay once Carlos is out of the picture and the North American Market can really get back into the swing of things with the new platforms and the hurricane engines. I went to a local aftermarket spot and found out (Yeah I'm a little late to the party) that there are already companies out there tuning the Hurricane engine and making some impressive gains. JB4 is advertising "up to 104whp" with just their tune on the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer and Stainless Works has a very decent exhaust system for the Ram 1500 out already so the aftermarket is truly embracing the new performance powertrain from Stellantis and making it better. Just simple math of calculated drivetrain loss, a 420hp Hurricane S.O may make about 382hp to the ground. Add 104hp and you're looking at 486hp to the ground, which roughly equates to 535hp to the crank, just 15hp shy of the 550hp Hurricane H.O. That same equation for the 550hp Hurricane 3.0L I-6 TT puts stock HP to the wheels at 500hp, add the 104hp and you're looking at roughly 604hp to the wheels or round about 664hp to the crank. Granted the site says "up to 104hp to the wheels" so yes those are max numbers, but if just a tune can do that and that can be done to the upcoming Charger six pack cars, there should be no qualms about anything. That's just a tune on a stock engine. that's no bolt ons or anything else. Make no mistake, that's impressive! When you look at it that way, this shows us just how capable some of these new Mopar vehicles are going to be when they come out with the Hurricane Six. As it stands, The Ram 1500 and Wagoneer are showing that they are impressive on the STLA: Frame Platform, but how insane will that be on the STLA Large platform with potential hurricane-6 powered vehicles being none other than the new Charger, the Durango-replacing Stealth SUV, the Wagoneer S and even the Jeep Recon. While this EV stuff may be a costly mistake, I think Stellantis can regroup a large portion of their losses with the next-gen ICE performance options and even some Direct Connection assistance along with these new vehicles.

I’m afraid by the time Carlos is out, the company would be in a far worse shape than now.
If he thinks an all electric Wagoneer S and Recon without an ICE version, in any shape or form, will be successful, he is wasting the company’s resources.
But I agree Hurricane-6 has potential and we have been saying that.
But that doesn’t negate the fact that there is still a place for a V8 once they figure out how to increase their corporate average.

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