Hurricane4 Coming To Higher End Jeep® Commander Models

I have questions, thoughts, statements and comments. First and foremost, I hope everyone had a great Christmas holiday for those of you that celebrate it. And I hope and pray that everyone has a prosperous and successful new year! So let's get into it. I dont understand Stellantis a lot of days and why it does what it does. This Hurricane family of engines (2.0L & 3.0L) seem to be able to run the entire gauntlet of Stellantis, North American market from start to finish so why not just use strictly these engines from everything from the Ram 1500 on down the line. We're looking at enignes ranging from 275hp (2.0L Hurricane-4 Turbo all the way up to 540hp with the Hurricane High Output-6 and from what we have been told, that barely scratches the surface of what the Hurricane-6 can do. Now, I'm no business expert but my thoughts would be if I want to lower my expenses and not have to pay emissions fines and fees but I still need to make power, just me personally, I would be focusing most of my resources for the STLA North American market on the STLA: Large & STLA: Frame platforms and those two engine families. The STLA large platform allows me to make a large midsize coupe, a large, midsize sedan, several different sized SUVs and crossovers from something the size of a Dodge Journey/Dodge Nitro, to a Durango sized SUV and Grand Cherokee L and even a midsized truck. Here's another thing. It's obvious that horsepower numbers have no ceiling now and if adding electrification to cars will add power while offering ZERO emissions driving in full EV mode, why not slap the Gen-4 ZF 8-speed hybrid transmission setup behind every single STLA Large vehicle coming up. Adding that kind of power behind these already potent engines should keep most people happy. Hurricane-6 hybrid powertrains would literally dominate the performance market and keep the horsepower wars alive all while offering Zero-emissions driving capabilities. Same thing with STLA Frame vehicles such as the Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer and the Ram 1500 pickups. I guess the Wrangler/Gladiator vehicles will fall on the STLA Frame platform somehow so again same thing applies here. With that being the basis of ICE based hybridization, Dodge also has it's other method of hybridization where the vehicle is mostly electric with a gasoline engine as a back up generator. If that is the case then why wouldn't this work for STLA: Large platform vehicles like the Charger Daytona/Charger Banshee with a 3 or 4 cylinder gas generator? Most customers that are interested in the EV Charger models aren't worried about under hood cargo space, especially when the cargo area in the back is going to be greater than what was available in the recently discontinued L-platform cars. And if cargo space is something that the Stellantis brand is going for, why not bring back a Dodge Magnum to compete with the upcoming BMW M5 wagon that is coming back to the united states next year? Another electrification aspect question is why wouldn't Stellantis offer an electric supercharger along with the Hurricane-6 powertrains like alot of other euro-based manufacturers are doing? it seems to work just fine in the vehicles they have over there, adding much needed low end torque to turbocharged engines so why not add that to what Stellantis has coming up for these future I-4 Turbo & I-6 Twin Turbo cars along with hybrid transmissions for clean power? This right here literally takes care of at least 70% of what Stellantis North America would need to fix their issues with emissions issues plus offer great lineups. Just with the STLA LArge platform, Dodge could have the Charger, Magnum, a Bronco-fighting Nitro, the Durango and the Dakota (it's not a frame vehicle so it should be a Dodge) With a base hybrid putting out anywhere from 390hp-415hp, there should be no issues with power or performance. Jeep would have the next-gen Cherokee, the Recon and the Grand Cherokee/Grand Cherokee L vehicles with the same powertrains but more upscale features than the Dodge vehicles. As far as the STLA: Frame vehicles go, the Wrangler/Gladiator, the Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer and the Ram 1500 series pickup trucks would continue on with hybrid Hurricane-6 powertrains & Ramcharger EV-hybrid powertrains. What is lacking here is a more affordable full-size SUV from the Dodge brand. While Dodge already used the Ramcharger name for the Hybrid system, a full size SUV named Monaco might not be such a terrible idea. Something that would compete with the Tahoe, Suburban & GMC Yukon and possibly Yukon Denali, giving room for the Grand Wagoneer to compete with the Escalade.

Interestingly enough, there is a way that Dodge could really wake up the mid-size segment as well and keep the Demon name going and that is the Dodge Dart (you know, the car where the Demon nameplate originally came from & the original bad@$$ midsize vehicle with a 426-Hemi. yeah that car!). While Dodge kind of messed up the Dart with that last vehicle it made, the STLA Medium platform could revise this name and make a monster while doing so. Take a moment to consider this. The 3.6L Pentastar makes about 305hp in the GT model Challenger and I think 300hp in the Charger GT. Not bad performance at all, but what if you take that setup and not only add a bit of Demon 170 tech & engineering to the engine but also add a hybrid system to it as well. Now by no means would it be a 1,000hp car but a car like that would literally lay to waste almost anything in the mid-size sedan segment. As posted on the Stellantis EV day slides, the STLA:Medium EDM can produce 180kW of power (241hp). Add that to a 305hp V6 and a combined system horsepower total of 546hp, that number is 3hp higher than a BMW M3 Competition which puts out 543hp. Couple that with a ZF 9-speed automatic and you have a monster of a 3-door (and 5-door) hatchback pony car with a 114" wheelbase with retro styling of the '71 Demon. Now of course that would be at the top of the engine range as a 2.0L Hybrid GT would sit a bit below that with a smaller rear EDM (125kw or 168hp) added to the 275hp setup for a much milder 403hp combined horsepower system that would still allow for zero-emissions driving with adequate horsepower without the need for goofy "push to pass" systems or anything like that. Setups like this could go in the STLA Medium Rampage pickup and even a revised version of the Hornet (slightly larger and less awkward looking). Jeep could also use this setup in a Jeep Renegade and Jeep Compass. I mean right there that electrifies the entire Stellantis North American portfolio and gives every single vehicle the ability to be operated with Zero emissions driving for part of their range.

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Jeep® is poised to enhance the dominance of its three-row Commander (H1) in the Brazilian market by introducing the renowned Stellantis turbocharged 2.0-liter Hurricane4 inline-four-cylinder engine. The arrival of the Hurricane4 marks a pivotal moment for the brand’s expansion in Latin America, strengthening the Commander’s position within the D-segment (midsize) SUV domain. As a frontrunner … (read full article...)

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How about no, The problem is the lazy nine-speed automatic. That Jeep uses is terrible. We are on our third one. My wife and I and that transmission is just awful. They're better off developing and totally new one before bringing it to America, not just another rebadged Alfa Romeo like that cheap dart that they charge way too much money for

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