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Trump Imposes 25% Tariff on Imported Cars

Trump Imposes 25% Tariff on Imported Cars​

Higher Prices and Potential Production Cuts Expected​


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President Donald Trump has announced a 25% tariff on all automobiles manufactured outside the United States, effective April 2. This marks a significant jump from the previous 2.5% rate and is part of his broader trade policy aimed at boosting domestic manufacturing.

 
You know who brought you $40K+ four bangers, and $60K+ V6s and V8s? Not Trump.

So if you want V6s and V8s, vote Republican in 2026/2028, because your preference in powertrains depends on it. I could care less what Stellantis does or doesn't sell to Europe and Canada.

An American-centric automaker that makes simple V6s and V8s with American parts and labor - if China can do that domestically with EVs (good value at great prices), you're telling that American companies that have stamped metal for 100 years can't do that for ICE vehicles with V6s and V8s?

Obviously, the problem is emission regulations - if for those that care about emissions, go lecture India and China on their emissions, get the hell out of my Industry and powertrain choices.

CDJR does not need Europe. Really, 90% of the US profits are STLA Large or STLA Frame that is exclusively sold in the US. 'Scale for the sake of scale' is the Daimler delusion that still haunts this company to this day.
 
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If you don't believe the public has zero appetite for $40K+ for four bangers, read these YouTube comments -

 
Soon all you MAGA's will be paying tariffs on all his merchandise since its made in China.
The tariffs are absolutely stupid. He gets something in his head and then it is a 1 track so called mind.
Tell us how you don't mind paying an extra 10K for a new Ram or Charger. I'm sure we will all believe you.
As I said, you lost your intelligence somewhere. I told you to find it before replying, you failed to do so. Clearly.

I’ll break it down real easy for you little peons, the tariffs aren’t supposed to be long term. It’s a show of economic strength, I applaud President Trump for doing something, ANYTHING, as no one else has had the stones to even try.

Recall, Trump 1.0 had China in the fetal position about to cry for mommy. And now he’s flexing to everyone else; if you have tariffs on us, we’re adding them on you. Canada is the weak little soy boy at starbucks wearing tight girl pants in a biker bar compared to the United States. They have had tariffs on our stuff for decades, the game is leveled and what’s fair is fair. I’m not anti Canada but they have absolutely zero strength or bargaining chips to bring to the table. They are a chihuahua pissing the carpet

I’m not sure the tactic is the correct one or the right one (in regards to the tariff game) but 100% support to Mr President and hats off for trying.

Remember: the rest of the world NEEDS us more than we need them. How much aid do we receive from foreign entities vs how much we send (to literally EVERYONE)? Exactly.

Now pipe down little boy
 
As I said, you lost your intelligence somewhere. I told you to find it before replying, you failed to do so. Clearly.

I’ll break it down real easy for you little peons, the tariffs aren’t supposed to be long term. It’s a show of economic strength, I applaud President Trump for doing something, ANYTHING, as no one else has had the stones to even try.

Recall, Trump 1.0 had China in the fetal position about to cry for mommy. And now he’s flexing to everyone else; if you have tariffs on us, we’re adding them on you. Canada is the weak little soy boy at starbucks wearing tight girl pants in a biker bar compared to the United States. They have had tariffs on our stuff for decades, the game is leveled and what’s fair is fair. I’m not anti Canada but they have absolutely zero strength or bargaining chips to bring to the table. They are a chihuahua pissing the carpet

I’m not sure the tactic is the correct one or the right one (in regards to the tariff game) but 100% support to Mr President and hats off for trying.

Remember: the rest of the world NEEDS us more than we need them. How much aid do we receive from foreign entities vs how much we send (to literally EVERYONE)? Exactly.

Now pipe down little boy
How are the consumers buying cars and paying 10k + in tariffs a show of strength? All it does is show how stupid Trump and his minions are. If you want to pay 87000 for a 70000 Ram, be my guest. I'll sit it out. When autoworkers are laid off and suppliers closed down because sales tank, again it will all point to 1 orange idiot. Tariffs are a tax on us and not another country. Those new Chargers and updated Ram HD's will gather dust on the dealers lots. There is no argument that can justify these tariffs.
The auto industry infrastructure was years in the making. Clump loved the new NAFTA then all of a sudden he says it is no good and won't abide by it, just like every other law he ignores.
By the way, all this tariff and DOGE stuff is causing all of our 401's to tank along with any other stock holdings. Tell us again how great tariffs are. People complained about eggs. They ain't seen nothing yet.
 
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Belvedere better start putting coal in the boilers... Make it STLA Large Plant.....Dakota, Durago, Minivan, Chrysler cuv, and Charger can all be built there.

Mexico will blink STLA mids can come from there,

Windsor and Brampton can build for their own market similar to Winsor can make Canadian versions of everything including Jeeps.

Proud of Canada for wanting to be independent, good on them. Full support.
This is how it use to be in Canada, it was called "Auto Pact" and for every car sold there, they built one up until 1970 I think. Then Can/USA did a free trade deal just between themselves and the pact ended. Then in the early 90's Mexico got pulled into the free trade deal and here we are.

Also fun fact, back when Chrysler went bankrupt Chrysler Canada was still a profitable and stable company, they were trying to find another car company to supply them with cars so they could keep running if the US side got liquidated.

That said, I still dont believe Trump has the runway to pull half this stuff off and the car companies are just going to carrot/stick him until 2028
 
How are the consumers buying cars and paying 10k + in tariffs a show of strength? All it does is show how stupid Trump and his minions are. If you want to pay 87000 for a 70000 Ram, be my guest. I'll sit it out. When autoworkers are laid off and suppliers closed down because sales tank, again it will all point to 1 orange idiot. Tariffs are a tax on us and not another country. Those new Chargers and updated Ram HD's will gather dust on the dealers lots. There is no argument that can justify these tariffs.
The auto industry infrastructure was years in the making. Clump loved the new NAFTA then all of a sudden he says it is no good and won't abide by it, just like every other law he ignores.
By the way, all this tariff and DOGE stuff is causing all of our 401's to tank along with any other stock holdings. Tell us again how great tariffs are. People complained about eggs. They ain't seen nothing yet.
You’re an idiot. And no, DOGE isn’t tanking 401k’s🤣 You were all for government spending reductions when Obama said it, when Clinton said it, when Biden mumbled it. And now President Trump is DOING it you loser leftists are throwing a fit. Truly the enemy

It’s happening, whether you like it or not. Sit in the corner and enjoy the show.

And no, the tariffs aren’t meant to actually take effect. THAT’S the point stupid. Will they? Probably. Are you so obtuse you can’t figure this out??

Get over your baseless hatred, grow up and pay attention. School is being held and he’s saving the country. You are flunking
 
Belvedere better start putting coal in the boilers... Make it STLA Large Plant.....Dakota, Durago, Minivan, Chrysler cuv, and Charger can all be built there.

Mexico will blink STLA mids can come from there,

Windsor and Brampton can build for their own market similar to Winsor can make Canadian versions of everything including Jeeps.

Proud of Canada for wanting to be independent, good on them. Full support.
I too was thinking about how they could shift production, and setting up Belvidere for Charger, Pacifica, and Dakota seems like the most obvious move.

They clearly need to move the vehicles intended primarily/solely for the US market to US plants. The other vehicles, besides Charger and Pacifica, that may need a new home are the upcoming Cherokee and Compass, as they are not intended to be exported significantly. (Cherokee is supposedly for North America exclusively, and Compass, while sold worldwide, is produced locally for international markets in Italy, Brazil, and India.)

Some other ideas I brainstormed:

*Produce Ram 1500s and HDs for export in Saltillo and added domestic-market HDs to Sterling Heights and/or Warren.

*With Grand Cherokee no longer being exported to Europe or Australia (or anywhere?), could GC and Durango production be reconsolidated at Jefferson North? This would allow the Mack plant to be retooled for something else, such as STLA Medium for the new Compass and a new Hornet. If there are still going to be GC exports, could those be built at Toluca with the Recon and Wagoneer S?

*With sales down and likely to decrease further due to tariffs, could Gladiator and Wrangler production be consolidated at Toledo South? This would allow Toledo North to be retooled for something else, such as the new Cherokee and domestic market Recon and Wagoneer S. (If capacity is constrained at Toledo South, they could consider discontinuing the two-door Wrangler. How many of those do they sell anyway?) Another solution could be to build Wranglers and Gladiators for export at Brampton.

*How flexible is Warren? Could the unit-body ProMaster van (for US sales, export models would continue to be built at Saltillo Van) be built there along with the body-on-frame Wagoneer and possibly the Ram HDs?

*I'm assuming that the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer are exported in small enough numbers and for a high-enough margin that they could absorb the costs of the inevitable retaliatory tariffs and continue all production at Warren.

It's a shame the OEMs were not given a year or two to sort this out and get production shifts and retooling underway before the tariffs struck. One good thing is that Stellantis has two assembly plants sitting idle (Brampton and Belvidere), which gives them a little flexibility. If they survive the bloodbath that is about to take place in the auto market and are able to make production shifts, it's obviously going to take a lot of time and money, and they need to figure out what their suppliers are going to do and reconfigure supply chains. Shifting to building the same vehicle in two different plants (for example, Pacifica being built at both Windsor and Belvedere) also adds another layer of complexity to the supply chain.

Another question: volume capacity aside, are the assembly plants flexible enough to produce lower volumes of several models? For example, could Belvidere and Windsor each produce Pacificas, Voyagers, Chargers, Dakotas, Chrysler CUVs, and Chrysler sedans?
 
Europe is dropping it incoming tariffs to 2.5% so we will trade Canada for Europe. So be it.
 
Let me know if I am remembering this correctly. Back in the mid-90’s when the LH sedans were selling like hot cakes, to help with the Canadian production and keep up with demand, didn’t some of the Intrepid and Concords get assembled at a plant in NJ for a few years? Is that plant still owned by Chrysler/Stellantis? If so is it being used? Can’t it be put on line to produce something in our line up?
 
You’re an idiot. And no, DOGE isn’t tanking 401k’s🤣 You were all for government spending reductions when Obama said it, when Clinton said it, when Biden mumbled it. And now President Trump is DOING it you loser leftists are throwing a fit. Truly the enemy

It’s happening, whether you like it or not. Sit in the corner and enjoy the show.

And no, the tariffs aren’t meant to actually take effect. THAT’S the point stupid. Will they? Probably. Are you so obtuse you can’t figure this out??

Get over your baseless hatred, grow up and pay attention. School is being held and he’s saving the country. You are flunking

Come back in a year and see where we all sit. The tariffs
are a horrible idea. Unemployment will rise, higher prices for everything . Yeah , guess I'm flunking simple economic facts.
Showrooms are seeing an increase in customers because they, like me, don't want to pay the tariffs that are a dream of a deranged mind.
 
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Come back in a year and see where we all sit. The tariffs
are a horrible idea. Unemployment will rise, higher prices for everything . Yeah , guess I'm flunking simple economic facts.
Showrooms are seeing an increase in customers because they, like me, don't want to pay the tariffs that are a dream of a deranged mind.
I will absolutely come back in a year and tell you that you were wrong. I’ll be backing up a dump truck of crow for you to eat too

And no, showrooms aren’t seeing an increase🤣 Why do you people insist on lies? Ok, ok, I’ll give you this, if you have 10 in a week and now have 11, that’s an increase. To imply that people are flocking to showrooms is an absolute lie, period. It’s just not happening.

They (countries that have been screwing us forever) will break before the US breaks. Tariffs will be shown to be a viable tactic. Trump will be proven right, yet again
 
Belvedere better start putting coal in the boilers... Make it STLA Large Plant.....Dakota, Durago, Minivan, Chrysler cuv, and Charger can all be built there.

Mexico will blink STLA mids can come from there,

Windsor and Brampton can build for their own market similar to Winsor can make Canadian versions of everything including Jeeps.

Proud of Canada for wanting to be independent, good on them. Full support.
Why do that? Stellantis would have to shell out tens of billions of dollars to move tooling, redo the factory, and revamp supply chains all to support two failed brands (Chrysler and Dodge).

It’s far more likely they will just let Chrysler and Dodge fade away and have them go the way of Plymouth as sales continue to plummet (especially with a 25% tariff).

Long term planning is impossible due to the chaos and incompetence of this administration — committing tens of billions to a pointless capital investment that may or may not pay off on tariffs that may or may not change to support two pointless dead brands with zero equity is a fool’s errand.
 
An American-centric automaker that makes simple V6s and V8s with American parts and labor - if China can do that domestically with EVs (good value at great prices), you're telling that American companies that have stamped metal for 100 years can't do that for ICE vehicles with V6s and V8s?

Chrysler did that in the 70s and almost went bankrupt. They did it again in the early 1990s and almost went bankrupt. Then they did it in 2008 and went bankrupt.

If not for the hated Europeans stepping in with bailout cash in 2009 to stop the liquidation, Chrysler would have disappeared back then. And they had far more volume back then than they have today.

A domestic automaker selling gas guzzlers with old tech and inadequate volume is guaranteed roadkill.
 
Why do that? Stellantis would have to shell out tens of billions of dollars to move tooling, redo the factory, and revamp supply chains all to support two failed brands (Chrysler and Dodge).

It’s far more likely they will just let Chrysler and Dodge fade away and have them go the way of Plymouth as sales continue to plummet (especially with a 25% tariff).

Long term planning is impossible due to the chaos and incompetence of this administration — committing tens of billions to a pointless capital investment that may or may not pay off on tariffs that may or may not change to support two pointless dead brands with zero equity is a fool’s errand.
Why would they have a cost saving program around avoid taxes and regulation? Hmmm no one ever does that.

Belvedere was already due the get plant modifications for STLA large which is really not that far of the CUSW to build the Dakota replacement. Everything modern is flex and on a pull system. It really no big deal to reroute Ropak's headed to Winsor to Belvedere from supply base. You may want to move some stamping and other equipment to suppliers closer, but those guys will be hungry AF to get some business back likely can get the shipping paid for by them, and really it isn't that much.

Mexico will blink so STLA Mid can go there.

Canada is countering US nationalism with their own Nationalism. Good for them, I proud they want to have an independent economy, and take care of their Own. Good for them. Hopefully there is enough demand from domestic buyer to keep Brampton and Winsor viable, if not a valuable lesson is learned. Something that can happen as one stretched one's independence. I don't know how it is bad thing that both countries would want to look after their own workers.

Given the EU is settle in at a reciprocal 2.5% Mid and Small sized vehicles at this point can supplied from the EU.
 
Why do that? Stellantis would have to shell out tens of billions of dollars to move tooling, redo the factory, and revamp supply chains all to support two failed brands (Chrysler and Dodge).

It’s far more likely they will just let Chrysler and Dodge fade away and have them go the way of Plymouth as sales continue to plummet (especially with a 25% tariff).

Long term planning is impossible due to the chaos and incompetence of this administration — committing tens of billions to a pointless capital investment that may or may not pay off on tariffs that may or may not change to support two pointless dead brands with zero equity is a fool’s errand.
Chaos, incompetence, and hatred for everyone and everything.
 
Given the EU is settle in at a reciprocal 2.5% Mid and Small sized vehicles at this point can supplied from the EU.
Where did you get this information? Last I heard, the EU levies a 10% tariff on U.S.-built cars, and the U.S. currently has a 2.5% tariff on EU-built cars, but that is going up to 25% on Wednesday. Did I miss something?
 
Chrysler did that in the 70s and almost went bankrupt. They did it again in the early 1990s and almost went bankrupt. Then they did it in 2008 and went bankrupt.

If not for the hated Europeans stepping in with bailout cash in 2009 to stop the liquidation, Chrysler would have disappeared back then. And they had far more volume back then than they have today.

A domestic automaker selling gas guzzlers with old tech and inadequate volume is guaranteed roadkill.

They can easily build V6 MHEVs, V8, four cylinders, whatever they want without repercussions - today. Because that’s what we voted for. Remember though - there is no free lunch with electrification.

The money makers in the modern era (2010-2020) have all had V6-V8s.
 
Why do that? Stellantis would have to shell out tens of billions of dollars to move tooling, redo the factory, and revamp supply chains all to support two failed brands (Chrysler and Dodge).

It’s far more likely they will just let Chrysler and Dodge fade away and have them go the way of Plymouth as sales continue to plummet (especially with a 25% tariff).

Long term planning is impossible due to the chaos and incompetence of this administration — committing tens of billions to a pointless capital investment that may or may not pay off on tariffs that may or may not change to support two pointless dead brands with zero equity is a fool’s errand.

When there’s a Republican president again in 2028, EVs will finally die - thankfully.

Because there is no plausible scenario in which anyone is making money selling EVs in the US, except for Tesla, because there is no way to make money with a powertrain whose cost is an order of magnitude greater than an ICE engine, unless you insource everything like Tesla has (they make their own seats), and have a tight control of costs. All of Big 3 are terrible at controlling costs.

Remember when EV idiots said NMC or Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries would continue go down in price in the 2020s like it did in the 2010s? Boy that hit a wall of reality real quick - hasn’t happened.

Billions upon billions have been wasted on this insanity, thousands of layoffs have occurred at Ford, GM, and Chrysler because - shocker here - you can’t lose billions on a bad bet without consequences. Should have just ignored paying the CO2 fines until Trump got elected.
 
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