Ram Delays 1500 Ramcharger and REV Pickups Again

Ram Delays 1500 Ramcharger and REV Pickups Again​

Electric and Range-Extended Trucks Now Pushed to 2026 and 2027​

It’s been a long road for Ram’s electric truck plans—and now it just got longer. The highly anticipated Ram 1500 REV and its range-extended sibling, the Ramcharger, are facing yet another delay.

Ram Delays 1500 Ramcharger and REV Pickups Again

Ram delays 1500 Ramcharger and REV pickups once more. Discover the updated timeline for these electric trucks.

moparinsiders.com

 

[BWS1]

Does anyone on this forum still believe we will ever see a new from the ground up Chrysler ? If they are ditching these things I can only imagine what’s happening to the Chrysler portfolio, if you want to call it that.

 

[redriderbob]

 

[scatpack_69]

Does anyone on this forum still believe we will ever see a new from the ground up Chrysler ? If they are ditching these things I can only imagine what’s happening to the Chrysler portfolio, if you want to call it that.

Yes. Chrysler and electric trucks aren’t the same thing. Chrysler should be fast tracked….its been how long since we’ve seen anything new?

 

[scatpack_69]

So….lets either scrap the program altogether, or make something

 

[cygnus]

Ramcharger delayed to 2026 is a bit disappointing.

 

[1960D500]

They should scrap this program and focus on a Dakota already.

 

[jeep06]

Thank god, eventually it will just be cancelled entirely.

 

[vbondjr1]

I think right now Stellantis is really trying to get itself together after the devastation it has endured through the last few years. Not only dealing with the changing auto industry and tariffs and shut downs and strikes and all of that stuff but also from the deliberate sabotage that their former CEO Carlos Tavares put the Mopar brands through to try to get them to collapse so there would be less American brands and more European brands here. With all of those wounds still being open, Stellantis is being overly cautious about how they approach Ram electrification and honestly I don't blame them. While my personal opinion would be to hybridize the hurricane powertrains in a 4Xe type setup in S/O and H/O setups powering vehicles on the STLA Large and STLA frame platforms and have that along with the "Ramcharger" EV setup on certain STLA Frame models, I realize that I view things from the perspective of simplification.
For example, lets say Stellantis took the STLA large platform & STLA frame platforms and made them the only two platforms that Mopar, North America was getting, that simplifies things down to two factories. Out of all of that, we have three engines, the Hurricane-4 2.0L the Hurricane 3.0L S/O and Hurricane 3.0L H/O which are all made in the same place. The ZF 8-speed isn't made by Stellantis, nor is the Cummins diesel in the Ram HD. The two platforms and three powertrains, especially in hybrid form would work across all four of the Mopar brands (Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep & Ram), still allowing for the brand to have the power they're known for but also balanced by lower emissions. It also streamlines Stellantis' North American parts distribution centers because they'd all be carrying the same parts because there are less engines and platforms now and there will be more shared parts across the board.

 

[Robert4]

Does anyone on this forum still believe we will ever see a new from the ground up Chrysler ? If they are ditching these things I can only imagine what’s happening to the Chrysler portfolio, if you want to call it that.

There going to have to have
Jordan Peterson relaunch Chrysler after all the indivisible plans and bad press!

 

[bill burke]

No shock on this news. Few people want electrics and few truck people are even interested. Time to get back to what made Ram so big, I’ll let you decide what that is, but I’m sure it’s not the pleasure and opportunity to plug it in, wait for hours and drive it 25 miles when the power runs out. Never should have built these rejected from go paper weights.

 

[patfromigh]

I'm guessing battery electric vehicles will hold about 10% of the market in the USA. Last year the meteoric rise in EV sales came to a screeching halt. Now, a year later sales have started to pick back up, but nowhere near the former boom times.

The Ramcharger looked like a winner, but now will arrive late enough to be obsolete upon arrival. By then the Scout and BYD EREVs will be marketed here. If Nissan survives, they too are rumored to have a range extended EV.

Ram management and engineers should use this delay time to streamline the REV and Ramcharger project as much as practical, by minimizing the differences between the two models for economy of scale, while encountering fewer bottle necks in production. Ram management has to identify who the buyers are for these plugin models and how they are going to use them. GM totally got this wrong with their Bright Drop battery electric van when they assumed commercial fleet buyers would choose the same specifications preferred by consumer buyers for electric passenger vehicles. The result has been a sales disaster.

Commercial and fleet buyers want an EV for those market niches where a battery electric vehicle best meets that need. It's up to Ram Trucks to figure all that out. Here's a clue, this can't be done from an ivory tower somewhere in Europe.

 

[Mike201]

Let’s face it, no one, except tree huggers want an EV pick up. It is time to completely scrap the Ram 1500 EV, but stay on track for the Ramcharger.
To be honest we do not know how things will be in 3 years, and if the Dems get back the White House in ‘28, and the EV mandates come back, at least we/Ram has something, or once again, Stellantis will be behind the eight ball.

 

[patfromigh]

The REV and the Ramcharger are joined at the hip. They can't be separated without killing them both. The motors and axles are already here being produced for Dodge and Jeep battery electric models. Sales of those haven't been great, but the Myopic Mopar Marketing geniuses haven't been able to figure out how to sell them or set a price the public will accept.

The EV subsidies are still with us at this point, but the EV mandates look to be ending. The federal government is exiting the charging business and this will free up the market. The charging support infrastructure is growing as the government influence evaporates. The conundrum of customers won't buy and EV with out a supporting charging infrastructure, while the charging infrastructure won't be built until there are enough EVs on the road for demand to justify a business case has been been overcome. It wasn't because the previous regime's spending millions of taxpayer Dollars for a few dozen Charging stations. Private investment is now fueling the infrastructure growth. Where there is an ample charging network battery electric vehicles will now appear. There won't be mass adoption of battery electric vehicles, it will probably hover around 10% for quite a few years. If there is another regime change and they try to force mass BEV adoption things will quickly unravel, because it's not feasible with our electric grid. Look at Western Europe.

The REV is a marketing fantasy. The customers who want a pure battery electric truck are not consumers, they are commercial and fleet buyers. So a tricked out high-line trim model, with a huge battery pack for a long driving range, probably won't be very successful. A Tradesman level trimmed truck with the Ramcharger's smaller battery pack, without any IC range extender, would be more affordable. Long driving range is not important for fleet vehicles operating within a short radius from a centralized location. The central location will most likely be a base of operation which will provide the battery charging. This already happens with vans and other LCVs here in America.

If there is going to be a Ramcharger ReEV selling in decent numbers, selling a smaller number of pure electric REV pickups is not a losing proposition.

 

[TripleT]

How about they get it right before it hits the dealer, take a breath get it right.

 

[scatpack_69]

Rev and Ramcharger aren’t joined at the hip. You can easily drop Rev and continue with Ramcharger. 100%. There’s no scale of production with return on investment argument to be made, as Ramcharger from the outset would likely sell 10:1 if not higher. Rev has never been a volume selling proposition

 

[cygnus]

Correct. Ramcharger and REEV is a winning concept in the US and where STLA can differentiate itself. Pure EV is played out. If I was Stellantis, I would stick to V8s/V6s, mild hybrids, and performance oriented series hybrids/REEVS.

Much more bang for your buck too with batteries - 37Kwh - 40 Kwh setup is half the battery vs a pure EV, which is typically around 80Kwh+.

 

[patfromigh]

Pure EV is played out. ... Much more bang for your buck too with batteries - 37Kwh - 40 Kwh setup is half the battery vs a pure EV, which is typically around 80Kwh+.

If pure EV is played out someone should talk to the other manufacturers introducing new BE models. Those investors in new charging networks and expanded coverage of existing locations should also be notified. Ram is still planning to introduce a mid-size truck based on the ST-Large platform with a battery electric drive. Then again that model runs counter to my claim because nobody is asking for such a thing. The length is right, but the weight and price will be stratospheric like the other pure BE models using that platform.

According to the original Mopar Insiders article of November 7, 2023: "The 2025 Ram 1500 Ramcharger boasts a cutting-edge performance system, combining a liquid-cooled 92 kWh battery pack with a Pentastar V6 engine. This powertrain drives 250-kW front and 238-kW rear Electric Drive Modules (EDMs), which integrate the motor, gearbox, and inverter, and enable all-wheel-drive capability." Another Mopar Insiders article on July 6, 2024 states: "The 2025 Ram 1500 REV promises robust performance with dual 250 kW electric drive modules (EDMs), delivering all-wheel-drive capability. A 168 kWh battery pack comes standard, offering an estimated range of up to 350 miles ..."

It must be pointed out that the long range battery pack option was cancelled after the date that article was published. It should also be pointed out that the mileage range numbers Ram claims for the Ramcharger just don't add up. Using 55% of the battery capacity for only a 50 mile battery only range is just 14% of the mileage range claimed for the pure battery electric REV. The battery only range should be about 192 miles. Most of the other manufacturers are claiming their range extended EVs need only a quarter of the batteries needed over the pure battery electric option for each model.

 

[patfromigh]

Let me add this correction to my recent post. Here is a quote from Insideevs(dot)com:

... the Ramcharger seems like a strong package, especially for a PHEV (or extended-range electric vehicle, to be more precise). Ram says the target electric-only range for the Ramcharger is 145 miles (or unlimited too, it seems). The battery pack is 92 kilowatt hours.

The 50 mile figure is for the electric only range added from 10 minutes on a 400V fast charger. Good look finding one of those.

 

[TripleT]

To those saying Abandoning EV is a viable solution, it is if your end game is extinction.

They are wayyyyyyyyyyy behind, and yeah that is going mean a lot of teething. Being behind and having trouble executing is not a excuse to abandon one of the fastest growing segments world wide.

Was the all in scheme of Pepe also very wise nope. But there is a middle ground around where Toyota and Honda sit.

Reminder the best selling car in the world and the 4th best in the USA is a EV. It not dead, it is not going away.... they are just behind and need to do better.