Mirafiori Launches Production Of New eDCT Transmission

Stellantis is celebrating the launch of its new electrified dual-clutch transmission (eDCT), at the historic Mirafiori Automotive Park in Italy. The next step in a €240 million investment (approximately $267 million USD) in the site and for the Italian automotive industry to create the Mirafiori Automotive Park 2030. Stellantis CEO announced an additional €100 million investment (approximately $111 million USD) today to boost the potential of the iconic Fiat 500e. Mirafiori Automotive Park 2030 embodies Stellantis’ vision of transforming into a sustainable mobility tech company. The site, one of three primary global hubs for Stellantis, encompasses operations from design to … (read full article...)

 

[bill burke]

Make no mistake, these electrification augmented transmissions being infused into Stellantis products is no small thing. If Stellantis, and I believe they will, offers a FULL RANGE of power plants meaning ICE, ICE supported hybrids, Plug in hybrids and fully electric, these new transmissions will support the full range and significantly enhance performance, economy and environmental impact. It also creates the most important necessity going forward..CHOICE. Every brand must offer choices to customers or be doomed by this green hoax agenda.
This new breed of transmission makes these full range vehicles the industry standard for Stellantis and makes its Dare Forward 2030 not only daring but realistic. This Mirafiori Automotive Park truly is a cornerstone for that plan which must be foremost, a plan for choice.

 

[patfromigh]

Which transmission, or should I say, whose transmission will it be? I hope this isn't that "built down to a price" French-Chinese 6-speed. Daimler sold one of the old Chrysler's crown jewels, New Process Gear, to Magna. Magna now has some advanced designs, including a 7-speed, 48V hybrid front drive transaxle used in the Euro Jeep Compass and Renegade models.

Since the early days of the lock-up torque converter, the historic Chrysler Corp brands went from first to worst for transmissions. Most notable is the Ultra-Drive debacle.which scared away a generation of buyers from Chrysler, Dodge and Plymouth. Since that episode, buyers were treated to a JATCO CVT in the Belvidere trio, the DDCT in the Dart, and the half baked ZF 9-speed automatic. Truck transmissions are a topic for another thread.

After some early teething problems, the eFlite hybrid transaxle has been quite successful. What I find strange is it has never been used in anything other than the Pacifica PHEV. The GKN e-axle hybrid system is only imported on the Tonale and Hornet.

Early adapters will buy an ugly hybrid, then they will move on to something else like a pure battery electric with bad build quality. Toyota learned this as Prius sales dried up and buyers walked across the showroom and bought Corolla and RAV4 hybrids instead. The people buying Toyota hybrids today are mainstream buyers, not early adapters. There are a heck of a lot more mainstream buyers than early adapters. The Prius has since morphed into something spectacular.

Another bad transmission could prove fatal for the legacy Chrysler brands, keep the French-Chinese junk in Europe. People won't buy an ugly hybrid, fix the Dodge Hornet. At one point management said that the Chrysler brand would be people movers with products like the Pacifica PHEV, then they changed their mind and said it would be an all electric brand. Around the same time Toyota said their Lexus brand would be all electric, now they seem to be selling a lineup of mostly hybrid people movers.Funny, isn't it, but only Toyota and Lexus seem to be laughing.

 

[TripleT]

Does it behave like DCT or is it more proper feeling. Americans literally think they are broken . I like the idea of them, but the 500L I drove in Italy was literally the worst behaving transmission I have ever driven, I that is with my pure distain for CVTs.

 

[Bili]

Does it behave like DCT or is it more proper feeling. Americans literally think they are broken . I like the idea of them, but the 500L I drove in Italy was literally the worst behaving transmission I have ever driven, I that is with my pure distain for CVTs.

Hmh... Nothing doesn't operate like a DCT nowadays if it's electrified.

Both torque converter and DCT transmission have electric creeping function. They are electric up to 20 or 30 km/h.
I'm talking about 2.5 MHEVs. They operate more like a full hybrids, nothing like a MHEV you've used before.

@patfromigh
Magna got 7 speed through buyout of Getrag. This is an old design which was electrified.
Renault group will use lower cost version of Magna sourced electrified DCT.

Peugeot has a history of building it in house thus Magna wasn't a choice. But also alongside building it in house or under a JV it was even more important to build it cheap, on price.

 

[patfromigh]

Hmh... Nothing doesn't operate like a DCT nowadays if it's electrified.

Both torque converter and DCT transmission have electric creeping function. They are electric up to 20 or 30 km/h.
I'm talking about 2.5 MHEVs. They operate more like a full hybrids, nothing like a MHEV you've used before.

@patfromigh
Magna got 7 speed through buyout of Getrag. This is an old design which was electrified.
Renault group will use lower cost version of Magna sourced electrified DCT.

Peugeot has a history of building it in house thus Magna wasn't a choice. But also alongside building it in house or under a JV it was even more important to build it cheap, on price.

Are we talking about the 7-speed used in the SUSW vehicles or the 6-speed used in the CMP platform vehicles? The article isn't specific on what the eDCT to be built at Mirafiori is far as its origins and specifications.

 

[TripleT]

Hmh... Nothing doesn't operate like a DCT nowadays if it's electrified.

Both torque converter and DCT transmission have electric creeping function. They are electric up to 20 or 30 km/h.
I'm talking about 2.5 MHEVs. They operate more like a full hybrids, nothing like a MHEV you've used before.

@patfromigh
Magna got 7 speed through buyout of Getrag. This is an old design which was electrified.
Renault group will use lower cost version of Magna sourced electrified DCT.

Peugeot has a history of building it in house thus Magna wasn't a choice. But also alongside building it in house or under a JV it was even more important to build it cheap, on price.

I can only speak to what my experience with 500L was and similar DCT in small cars.