cygnus
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I think they would/will keep a V8, if their fleet average economy allowed for it without paying tesla again (if that sort of this is still allowed).
Currently I believe starting in 2024 an 8% reduction is required. Then in 2026 they have to meet a 49 mpg fleet average.
I repeat....49 MPG average by 2026. So they have to craft plans to comply - until the requirements are (hopefully) tossed in the garbage can.
USDOT Announces New Vehicle Fuel Economy Standards for Model Year 2024-2026 | US Department of Transportation
Standards to require fleet average of 49 mpg by 2026, save consumers money, and advance U.S. energy independencewww.transportation.gov
No one should be mad at STLA. They are doing what they have to.
They are to blame if the fans have repeatedly said they want a V8, even if it means an extra $10-15K in the new models to pay for the CO2 credits. The EV halo received a very cool reaction from the fans, they're telegraphing LAST CALL to all the fans to absolutely shake them down and squeeze every bit of profit before the current offerings end, and are now internally backpedadling because they realize the I6 variants may not meet sales projections, unless a PHEV is involved, but no automaker globally has ever hit production numbers at the level that Brampton was doing on a normal day with the V8.
No one wants the EV variants that the prices STLA will ask for either, not in volumes that will yield profits for the program. This program is turning into a huge risk for Stellantis and its entirely their fault when they started using the 'LAST CALL' marketing language (they boxed themselves into a corner - they will have egg on their face and will have burned the fans that bought into the 'LAST CALL' if they change their mind now and decide to offer the base 5.7 V8 in the $55-70K range to pump up program volume, and no, this is obviously different than the a halo 6.4 L that is discussed earlier in this thread) and Tim goes on stage and tries to tell everyone that they're being forced to do this. It's all bullsh1t and a situation they concocted themselves, led primarily by Tavares.
Instead of Tim and the old Chrysler guys that are still at CTC (there are fewer and fewer of us, and more and more yes men) telling Tavares he doesn't know what he's talking about - we have the current leadership that just falls into line and does what they're told.
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and rumors are getting ridiculous! (Examples) The latest is two different reports of the next gen challengers design mirror camaro. one guy who supposedly knows a Brampton employee who seen a prescreened build sheet or diagrams he described it looking similar to a gen 5 camaro with 72-73 challenger style open grill and scoops in the front fenders and alot more aluminum components and panels vs the existing model but production wouldn't until Sept 12th
