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Grand Caravan Nameplate Returns To Canadian Showrooms:

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The Chrysler Voyager enters the 2021 model year with a more important role than ever before, as the direct replacement for the beloved but aged Dodge Grand Caravan. Chrysler re-introduced the Voyager nameplate to the U.S. market last year, as the entry-level variant of the Chrysler Pacifica. The 2020 Chrysler Voyager featured a cheaper starting … (read full article...)

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Grand Caravan Nameplate Returns To Canadian Showrooms:

The Chrysler Voyager enters the 2021 model year with a more important role than ever before, as the direct replacement for the beloved but aged Dodge Grand Caravan. Chrysler re-introduced the Voyager nameplate to the U.S. market last year, as the entry-level variant of the Chrysler Pacifica. The...
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Just some idle speculation on my part, but I wonder if Stellantis management will allow the Dodge Grand Caravan to become more distinct from the Pacifica and Voyager. PSA seems less bothered by sharing vehicles among the brands. This is especially true for the Fiat and PSA large vans, but on the smaller vans Fiat recently seems to have gone its own way.
 
patfromigh said:
Just some idle speculation on my part, but I wonder if Stellantis management will allow the Dodge Grand Caravan to become more distinct from the Pacifica and Voyager. PSA seems less bothered by sharing vehicles among the brands. This is especially true for the Fiat and PSA large vans, but on the smaller vans Fiat recently seems to have gone its own way.
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TripleT said:
There no money in being the North American KIA .... Sorry to tell you. And no the Pacifica is the best minivan on the market now. The Styling on the Japanese is not well executed as the Pacifica....Until the RT Chrysler dominated the market and often at a premium, it opened it up to the Japanese with penny pitching Germans ruining the product. It beyond me why some cling to that model, and want to run down that which has reestablished the product as the premier in the class. It good to welcome back home those who wanted a well styled, well appointed, and high quality product....... for sure the minivan would be killed before they make something a bad as the RT, and as poorly margined.
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Agreed, the Pacifica is the best minivan right now. The Sienna or Odyssey might have a feature or two that is interesting, but the refreshed Pacifica really steps the minivan game up for Stellantis in NA.

I wish that the RT Caravan had been replaced with a 6th gen RU Caravan when the Pacifica debuted, but it wasn't, then we could have had a class-leading Caravan for the past few years too.
 
redriderbob said:
Correct. Dodge has a new SUV coming in 2022 as a 2023... it will "bee" all the "buzz" for the new lineup. Hint Hint, Wink Wink. Nuff said.
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Would this "bee" a Grand Cherokee sized vehicle, or the long-promised Cherokee sized vehicle?
 
UN4GTBL said:
Would this "bee" a Grand Cherokee sized vehicle, or the long-promised Cherokee sized vehicle?
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your not thinking big enough.

UN4GTBL said:
Agreed, the Pacifica is the best minivan right now. The Sienna or Odyssey might have a feature or two that is interesting, but the refreshed Pacifica really steps the minivan game up for Stellantis in NA.

I wish that the RT Caravan had been replaced with a 6th gen RU Caravan when the Pacifica debuted, but it wasn't, then we could have had a class-leading Caravan for the past few years too.
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It was pretty simple Caravan was getting a couple thousand less per transaction, it didn't warrant the development cost. They cash cowed the existing model as long as they could since some of th43e models planned for the capacity never materialized for implementation. Chrysler CUVs, and 300 replacement.
 
With all due respect to any forthcoming Jeeps, I can't see any of them being marketable as municipal fleet vehicles except as black cars for the Secret Service. When the Durango goes to the full frame replacement, that vehicle would be more suitable for law enforcement purposes. Perhaps a rear drive Cherokee replacement could lend itself to police duty, like the original one did two decades ago.
 
patfromigh said:
With all due respect to any forthcoming Jeeps, I can't see any of them being marketable as municipal fleet vehicles except as black cars for the Secret Service. When the Durango goes to the full frame replacement, that vehicle would be more suitable for law enforcement purposes. Perhaps a rear drive Cherokee replacement could lend itself to police duty, like the original one did two decades ago.
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Not sure why it would be any different the the Current Durango??? Other than they have taken it up market a bit and may not be that interested in Fleet sales. Seems to me the Cherokee would be too small for that function. Durango and Explorer sort of on the minimum side chosen.
 
TripleT said:
your not thinking big enough.
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Oh I see, I was thinking a new vehicle for some reason. That will 🐝 cool to see (y)




So they're gonna make a Chrysler Grand Caravan Superbee?








:LOL:
 
TripleT said:
It was pretty simple Caravan was getting a couple thousand less per transaction, it didn't warrant the development cost. They cash cowed the existing model as long as they could since some of th43e models planned for the capacity never materialized for implementation. Chrysler CUVs, and 300 replacement.
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IMO, all a 6th gen Caravan really needed was a new grille and maybe a different tailgate, which they've basically done now with the current Voyager/Chrysler Grand Caravan is, so not sure any development funds would have been saved?

Regardless, what's done is done
 
redriderbob said:
Correct. Dodge has a new SUV coming in 2022 as a 2023... it will "bee" all the "buzz" for the new lineup. Hint Hint, Wink Wink. Nuff said.
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Platform, base engine, class size... Uh! A lot of questions. 😵
 
UN4GTBL said:
IMO, all a 6th gen Caravan really needed was a new grille and maybe a different tailgate, which they've basically done now with the current Voyager/Chrysler Grand Caravan is, so not sure any development funds would have been saved?

Regardless, what's done is done
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Those things are pretty expensive, and the outcome to sell at a lower transaction price.... What they done here is used the older model components to create the lower end model... So it was free.
 
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