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GM Makes Mopar Fans Jealous With New Twin-Turbo “LT7” Engine

GM Makes Mopar Fans Jealous With New Twin-Turbo “LT7” Engine​

New V8 From GM, Dethrones C170 HELLEPHANT As Most Powerful V8...​


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Chevrolet has unleashed a new beast in the automotive world with the 2025 Corvette ZR1, boasting an impressive 1,064 horsepower from its all-new LT7 engine. This twin-turbocharged 5.5-liter DOHC flat-plane crank V8 is setting new benchmarks and leaving Mopar fans green with envy, especially in light of recent changes in Stellantis’ engine lineup.

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GM Makes Mopar Fans Jealous With New Twin-Turbo "LT7" Engine

Chevrolet has unleashed a new beast in the automotive world with the 2025 Corvette ZR1, boasting an impressive 1,064 horsepower from its all-new LT7 engine. This twin-turbocharged 5.5-liter DOHC flat-plane crank V8 is setting new benchmarks and leaving Mopar fans green with envy, especially in...
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While EVs are gaining popularity, a majority of customers still prefer the traditional power and performance of V8 engines. If Stellantis fails to address these preferences, it risks losing loyal customers to competitors like GM and Ford.

Both GM and Ford are leveraging their EV programs to offset fuel emissions requirements, allowing them to maintain V8 engines in their lineup. This approach ensures that enthusiasts still have access to the powerful engines they love while also meeting modern emissions standards.
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Battery electric vehicle market share is stalled around 7% of sales. Auto manufacturers are currently moving their EV merchandise by offering give away lease deals. While GM and Ford wanted to "leverage their EV programs to offset fuel economy requirements," which would allow "them to maintain V8 engines in their lineup", the reality of today's market doesn't allow this.

Both Ford and GM are losing their assets on their EV programs. I don't know where GM got the billion dollars to develop a new V8, maybe it was the sales profits from those electric Hummers.

The decision to move away from V8 engines and towards EVs and inline-six engines may alienate a significant portion of Stellantis’ customer base. While EVs are gaining popularity, a majority of customers still prefer the traditional power and performance of V8 engines. If Stellantis fails to address these preferences, it risks losing loyal customers to competitors like GM and Ford.
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Once again EVs are not gaining in popularity. The early adopters have already purchased them and the market plateaued because middle class consumers are rejecting the costs and the necessary lifestyle changes of owning an EV.

A significant majority of Ford F-150 buyers choose six cylinder engines. While "a majority of customers still prefer the traditional power and performance of V8 engines", the sales reports of all the brands industrywide doesn't support a preference for V8s.

This article fails to mention gas-electric hybrids which are rapidly gaining in popularity. Stellantis is also investing in hybrid technology. The new inline six cylinder engines offer similar power and performance to a V8 engines. I don't know if Ram and Jeep will combine the inline sixes with the next generation hybrid systems.
 
Both GM and Ford kept alot of other powertrain options available while Mopar went V8 heavy and toppled over. But if you notice a theme, Both GM and Ford are now playing in the 5-liter group, much like the old days of Trans Am Racing. A smart move for Stellantis to play would be their own version of a 5.2L (318ci) V8 DOHC with an N/A version and a twin turbo variant to go along with their hurricane powerplants which would allow them to get back in the V8 game once things settle down a bit. Only thing is, I think the Hurricane engines are going to be extremely successful to a broad range of people, especially if they bring out a pair of potent 2.0L and 2.4L Hurricanes pushing roughly 325hp and 385hp respectively on the low end of things for the STLA Medium and base SLTA LArge cars along with the three variants of the 3.0L Hurricane (standard, high output and Cat X) and even the potential of a larger 3.8L Hurricane. Turbo cars respond very well to modifications and if Direct Connection gets involved with stage kits. We're going to see Dodge do what the MKIV Supra and R34 Skyline did in the late 90's and early 2000s where they quickly became competitive with American V8s and in alot of cases beat them and also were way easier to modify to get impressive power gains and also see the 4-cylinder variants become what cars like the SRT4 cars and other tuners became back then. The hurricane family may actually bring back the affordable, modifiable muscle car. Don't get me wrong, these 1,000+ hp cars are amazing but not fun to the average guy and there is no point to modifying them. just my opinion
 
Nothing promises that a V8 would be more potent than the I6. For several reasons. At this point it just about marketing. The 4.0 version of the engine you talked about exist and it was NOT nearly as potent.

Remember Corvette and Mustang Dark Squirrel or whatever it is called is basically the bespoke Halo models. These are not volume powerplants.

Nothing keeps the same thing from happening at Dodge but seems like a lot of work for something that would be marginally more potent and way more expensive.

Entire tuner culture embraced i6 at BMW and Nissan. We should also, like the 80s embraced the 2.2 Turbo.
 
EV market is slowing down and this evident by the German automakers rethinking their strategy.

The I6 can have better performance than the V8, but the performance minded poeple will still choose a V8, and a clear example is the new C63 AMG and its sales number and how this made Mercedes rethink the V8 for its coupe sibling.

The HEMI Challenger and Mustang were neck to neck in the sales race.
So, let’s see how the numbers stack up when it comes to a V8 Mustang vs an I6 Charger Coupe.
Better yet let’s see how the refreshed Ram will fair against Ford and GM twins.
 
Agreed RAM needs to drop the Cummins for a V8, because people only thing a V8 can make power. Most GM and Ford 1500 trucks are not V8.

If you're going to Metric sales volume MOPAR cannot compete with Ford or GM capacity. That the Challenger was on par volume with Mustang is a Mustang problem which makes that entire argument fall apart, it was underutilized.
 
Most of the sales numbers comes from the mid to lower trims, and in this case it’s V8 for Ford truck and a combination of I4 (🤔) and V8 for GM.

Challenger was on par with Mustang because Mopar offered what people wanted, useful interior and trunk with growling performance.

Ram had some restraining capacity not to take number 2 spot but to go any further. Capacity should have been solved now, so let’s see how the refreshed model will perform coupled to its higher price.
 
Mustang was not at Capacity, should they choose to outsell the Challenger they could have, but would have eroded margins. V8 be damned.

You make argument that is sad, the marketing around a V8 is more valuable then reality, when most people don't even move the cover off the motor to count the spark plugs.

It is SAD, but can be overcome... See Cummins.
 
TripleT said:
Mustang was not at Capacity, should they choose to outsell the Challenger they could have, but would have eroded margins. V8 be damned.

You make argument that is sad, the marketing around a V8 is more valuable then reality, when most people don't even move the cover off the motor to count the spark plugs.

It is SAD, but can be overcome... See Cummins.
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Very well said triple T
 
V8 still beats all.

Don’t even bring up diesels, it’s not the same. Moronic comment.

When you have turbo 4’s or 6’s making north of 10,000hp, then we can debate. Since they don’t exist, the absolute fact is a V8 will ALWAYS make more power than a smaller engine, mod for mod. Always.

We want V8’s. We don’t want turbo 6’s. Hell, throw a turbo on the V8 and you’re making well north of 7-800hp, where the 6 is mid 5’s.

The discussion simply isn’t there
 
No problem with the performance of a turbo 6 if it’s tunable.
But V8 is still the ultimate performance platform. Look at the GM, Ford and the Germans
 
Mopar392 said:
No problem with the performance of a turbo 6 if it’s tunable.
But V8 is still the ultimate performance platform. Look at the GM, Ford and the Germans
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Ultimate is whatever makes power, V12 to some. Air flow and room to secure the heads matter. Offy4 used to be the ultimate engine for decades
 
35, 37, 41, 47,48,49,50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 68, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76

That is a record and a span that is unprecedented. For sure it was a Screamer literally but crossing the finish line is part of the game. Weight and durablility are part of the equation. ZERO is the number for the NOVI kind of the same thing it sounded good and people liked the idea of it.
 
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