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I betting the Kids there don't see the value in it, rather just do ad buys SEOs, and all the modern marketing stuff. New Union Contract, slowing sales, bet they the asked where they wanted the cut and this was first on the list.
I dont link despite WItmer the Michigan is a CARB state.
Good for you.
Get off my lawn...... Hope you feel better.
YOU-Tripple T wrote-(Side note: Daimler/Cerberus is who broke Ram from Dodge) -first that's not true Cerberus was going to liquidate everything! not just Ram from dodge! they never even mentioned taking Ram from dodge! they even had the Viper program almost sold also! who ever would of bought the dodge brand would of most likely killed everything but the Trucks, etc. Daimler had nothing to do with the Cerberus Liquidation plans they just bailed on their ownership of CDRJ. And I wrote it was S.M. of FCA who decided as Boss to do the name change to RAM and make Ram a brand LATER. Daimler did nothing but sell the whole company after using up Chrysler's cash over the years and giving it just a few vehicles at first, then mild updates, and the over seas hatred in the German management ranks for Chrysler! for even being in the same breath as MBenz was strong! and German management not letting Auburn hills make simple fast decisions! and always second guessing and vetoing the Auburn Hills leaders! killing cars Chrysler wanted to produce and updates! then after using up Chrysler mostly! it was sold to Cerberus but thank God not in parts! but by then Chrysler barely had any investment cash! And Cerberus didn't put anything into it (cash) an refused to! Now about this time the 2010 ram was already coming! and the program was paid for, they Cerberus just didn't stop those set plans! then they hired a Fired Home Depot Guy to run it-lol. Design Boss Ralph Gilles has said he didn't even know if his design office was going to be shut down? on any given day it was so bleek! and shaky under Cerberus! Cerberus? they played the hero at first by bringing back the Pentastar Corporate emblem in an updated design, acting like they were rescuing and rebuilding Chrysler! it was a big public relations stunt! it was all over the News!! this was a stunt to just hide their liquidation plans! they were going to have a fire sale! and part Chrysler Out! the President at the time- Tom Lasorda was running around trying to find a partner before the fire sale and found a taker in Fiats- Sergio, but Sergio said it depended on the USA Gov. loans before he would commit! the loans came through then Sergio jumped on board! and Sergio i give him credit! because he managed them back to health with the Loan help! then paid the loan back ahead of time! but then started divesting in everything but Jeep and Ram but deep investing in his coddled failing in the USA- Fiat! and Alfa! brands. even now!-( look at the final sales figures for the year of 2023-the neglected Chrysler 300 by itself!- outsold all of Fiat and Alfas vehicles combined! ) What do you think Sergio was going to do to the Chrysler brand? It was he who killed all of the 5 year plans for the Chrysler brand that he had showed the world! at first! and who cancelled the 2018/19 300 update hmmmmmmm? Chrysler was supposed to have a a couple of SUV 's and 1 CUV The mini van and again a freshened 300 in 2018/19 these are well documented facts! READ. On another note- TTT you seem to jump on everyone on here but yourself! or can you accept opinions? did I jump on you with Sarcasm? like you do to most. have a good day! And By the way I pray Mopar lives in everyway! My father did 40 years I did 10 right out the army all at Chrysler as employees. I currently own 3 Dodge Rams, 2 300's, one Viper, and my son has a 200 just to let you know where my loyalty is and where my heart is! So yes I'm sad! when i see what's happening!
DUDE you're out depth. I was at vital tier1 when the RAM as separate unit was nearly sold. I don't know where you were, hell you might have been in the halls of Auburn Hills and wouldn't know this. Use your little google machine if you want. I know where I was, I am giving you inside stuff that I could not even talk about at the time. As we were critical supplier taking cash to keep the supply. Nearly nothing went in and out of a DCX facility without our product or RAMs buyer...... So, you can have your Truth what you heard happen and then there is what really happened. I not googling anything I was in the trenches.
Tripple T-(If your a fan of the Brand the only way to truly support it is by buying its product. Spouting on Forum not so much. Reminds me of Oval Indycar fans, lots of keyboard warriors not a lot of ticket buyers.) I guess you did not read fully? Because if you had? you would of seen where I say I love the company! and own products! but let me be even clearer! I own 3-Dodge rams-(from 2004-2014 -2020) 2 300 C's-( 2005 C and a 2019 C ) and 1 pristine! Gen 1 Dodge Viper, also my son owns a 2014 200. we are now a 3rd generation Chrysler family, and hope we get to be a 4th! So far It's been 63 years! of Chryslers/Dodges and Plymouths sitting outside our homes! Again my dad worked 40 years for them in various roles! from the assembly line, to a foreman, to the logistics dept. at the end of his career! me I worked 10 YEARS at the Truck plant on Mound RD.- right out OF the Army. And yes I've seen what Daimler, AND LATER FCA, did everyday also! One thing I seen was to buy cheaper parts! damn the longevity? and also bad management decisions! Example #1- the Heater And A/C Unit Case! something you don't see in a vehicle! they went to a Low quality supplier to save money! During quality checks the cheap heater box was breaking the plastic inside vent door arms, during Ac / heat testing in some trucks off the line, but Daimler stayed with this different company that supplied them! from the one supplying Chrysler this part before the take over! and FCA in turn kept them too! I was there! I know! like you say you had first hand knowledge! ALSO Bro. I don't google a damn thing about Mopar! I talk to people I know still at Chrysler in the Detroit area and in Canada I knew before the press release that Windsor assembly was to be refitted for Charger production as I have 3 family members that have over 20 years there. and Buddies, and other family, that work at at the jeep plant and truck plants, as well, Also A best friend! who is a team leader at what was Warren truck, where they make the Wagoneer now! (where I worked) So Say what you want! but Sergio alone is the One who caused the Chrysler Brand to be where it is! Christine Feuell the current Chrysler brand leader has said in public, in so many words that the Chrysler Brand was Neglected! #1-how do you not update a Sedan that is out selling the Lincoln, and Caddy's, and Buick's, sedans! at the time! and Yes a ton of people compared the top Line -300C to caddys' sedans, and Lincoln sedans! me included, Yes a 300 C looks better to me! in style and to me had a better Interior design! not all push buttons like in a caddy! and we ordered the Platinum C trim on our 2020. Now currently? Christine Feuell has said that's an area Chrysler needs to continue in SEDANS! Just think where Chrysler could be as a brand now? if it had got more investment and Product! during Sergio's time! ( Ps-everyone does not want a JEEP! ) name one Brand that got no new product for 6 years????? plus! you mention the 200 as an excuse? the 200 could of been a hit! why was it not a hit you may ask? STYLING! was the #1 reason!- bland front! bland cookie cutter back end, and terrible side profile! Who pushed the styling language to mainstream styling? who killed the original planned 2011 300 grille to a reduced smaller Bland grille! only to realize the mistake ang go back to Bold styling of the grille in 2015! Gilles has even said the styling department was told to tone down Chrysler to compete with bland Toyota, and Honda, more! Bam! what happens?-you got the Bland smiling 200 face! that also ended up on the Mini. till what? a few years later they say Wham! lets go back upper crust to a Pinnacle Version of the mini with a Very bold grille! Let me go back on the 200 again Some people said it was rear door entrance height, that's a joke! Most People don't give a damn about rear entrance height! this car was killed due to Sergio wanting money for Alfa! and Maserati, and to keep trying to prop up the Fiat 500 joke! how many of those are selling???? again that Old lost in the past 300 as some like to call it? outsold them all again in 2023!-( Fiat/ Alfa! and Maserati brands- all those brands vehicles combined almost! ) and that's ONE CAR! WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? about what Chrysler could of been by now! and it still outsold Caddy's sedan! Ford-( Lincoln)-N/A Buick-N/A so you see what could be? Now back to Sergio you can love? him all you want, I don't! I respect what he did at first! that's it. ( May he RIP! ) Let's also remember He S. M. even bad mouthed the 200's designers, and engineers, to the Public as a PR stunt to justify killing it! Did he not OK the damn car in the First place? no one could Push Sergio like a pawn! as you basically said! The Buck stopped with Him! his Action's spoke louder than his multiple 5 year plans for the Chrysler brand words! Sergio was never fully onboard with the Chrysler brand! he tried to turn it into Plymouth! was it not he! who said Chrysler is to be the mainstream brand? instead of it's Blue collar Luxury-( that stole sales from caddy, and Lincoln all it's life! ) and took on Buick directly etc. That's it's heritage! with I grant you a few missteps like the Pt cruiser that was forced on the Brand due to the Killing of Plymouth by Daimler! which was a Caddy Cimarron of a mistake! to Chrysler's affordable upscale reputation! and Now back to the original topic! being absent at Car Shows will hurt! the Chrysler Brand more than any! if their supposed new offerings are not in a real world display! around the whole country, and hell the whole world-aim big! Not on a screen that you cant touch, and get real life views! sit in it and feel. etc. ( Not this virtual crap! please! ) So sir! I'm done! reply all you want? but as you see I don't insult you with words. Again! truly have a good day! AND A GOOD 2024!
