Chrysler Airflow Concept Three years ago at CES 2022, Chrysler showed off a concept of a production-ready-looking mid-sized electric SUV called the Airflow. This vehicle was to be based on the variant of the upcoming STLA large platform underpinning the new Dodge Charger Daytona. A few months later in April, Chrysler showed off another version of the concept called the Airflow Graphite Concept. While not a super futuristic, outlandish design, the Airflow was a very handsome concept and looked to be production ready both interior, and exterior wise as soon as Stellantis had their STLA Large platform ready to go. … (read full article...)
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BREAKING: Chrysler C6X (CA) Electric SUV Development Suspended
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Good, put the money into STLA Large getting a series hybrid (range extended EV with gas tank, like the Ramcharger) powertrain so it can go into the -
2028 Grand Cherokee Five Passenger / Seven Passenger
Next Generation Durango
MCA Charger / Challenger in 2029
Next Generation Wrangler (which isn't on STLA frame, but I'm hearing they're looking at something that _isn't_ the Recon for STLA Large for Belvidere)
Basically - the current iteration of STLA Large needs to be scrapped, entirely. The next iteration of STLA Large - ICE, MHEV, and Series Hybrid _only_.
Let pure EV be a Chrysler thing, and let it launch in 2030+. Let the current EV Charger / Challenger sell for five years, and then get rid of EV for anything except Chrysler. Let Fiat/Renault/Alfa share the EV platform, that's on them to figure out. Go let Europe be Europe and we can do our own thing in the US.
By the way - what I described was Sergio's plan before he died. Sergio specifically said NO EV for anything except for Chrysler. Back to the future. Someone go please tell the idiots at Allpar / Dave & Erik that Sergio was right.
2028 Grand Cherokee Five Passenger / Seven Passenger
Next Generation Durango
MCA Charger / Challenger in 2029
Next Generation Wrangler (which isn't on STLA frame, but I'm hearing they're looking at something that _isn't_ the Recon for STLA Large for Belvidere)
Basically - the current iteration of STLA Large needs to be scrapped, entirely. The next iteration of STLA Large - ICE, MHEV, and Series Hybrid _only_.
Let pure EV be a Chrysler thing, and let it launch in 2030+. Let the current EV Charger / Challenger sell for five years, and then get rid of EV for anything except Chrysler. Let Fiat/Renault/Alfa share the EV platform, that's on them to figure out. Go let Europe be Europe and we can do our own thing in the US.
By the way - what I described was Sergio's plan before he died. Sergio specifically said NO EV for anything except for Chrysler. Back to the future. Someone go please tell the idiots at Allpar / Dave & Erik that Sergio was right.
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My first thought on this is, does this foretell the demise of the Chrysler brand? Is Stellantis diverting funds to other brands or is this just cost cutting? It's kind of hard to sell product when you don't have anything new to sell. I thought the Airflow concept was a good one and almost ready to put into production. People want SUV's and trucks and not cars these days.
Where does one start with this? It's basically another bad decision by Fiat/Stellantis when comes to anything Mopar. Sales are tanking for good reason.
But lets look at the C6X or whatever it was suppsed to be called.
1. Why was this still "in development"? Why was the Dodge Charger given the priority? After all the bread and butter of the passenger car market is CUVs.
2. Regardless of the above, did they really expect this to sell? It's completely anonymous! Just stick a badage on it and it's whatever you want it to be. Want it to be a Chrysler? Sure, just use whatever forgetable logo their using now. If they had gone 'retro" and made call back to past models at least they would make some kind of impression.
3. Why would anyone buy a Chrysler now? There has been no development of new Chrysler or Dodge vehicles for well over a decade. They need a line up of cars not just one or two. They simply don't exist in the minds of the car buying public.
4. It's coming into the market as the battery powered party is breaking up. Serious questions about EVs have been in the public discourse for a couple of years now. And for anyone with an economic, engineering or scientific background should have been years ahead of that in questioning this course. Do they have any contingency plans? Probably not.
It's probably the end for Chrysler and Dodge. There has just been no investment in products for them. How is the Alfa Tonale doing for Dodge? And Ram (which should have stayed Dodge) and Jeep look like ther're on the ropes. Can anyone afford them? We bought a new car this year and test drove a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Smaller, more expensive and less reliable than what we eventually bought. And the dealership was like a tomb.
But lets look at the C6X or whatever it was suppsed to be called.
1. Why was this still "in development"? Why was the Dodge Charger given the priority? After all the bread and butter of the passenger car market is CUVs.
2. Regardless of the above, did they really expect this to sell? It's completely anonymous! Just stick a badage on it and it's whatever you want it to be. Want it to be a Chrysler? Sure, just use whatever forgetable logo their using now. If they had gone 'retro" and made call back to past models at least they would make some kind of impression.
3. Why would anyone buy a Chrysler now? There has been no development of new Chrysler or Dodge vehicles for well over a decade. They need a line up of cars not just one or two. They simply don't exist in the minds of the car buying public.
4. It's coming into the market as the battery powered party is breaking up. Serious questions about EVs have been in the public discourse for a couple of years now. And for anyone with an economic, engineering or scientific background should have been years ahead of that in questioning this course. Do they have any contingency plans? Probably not.
It's probably the end for Chrysler and Dodge. There has just been no investment in products for them. How is the Alfa Tonale doing for Dodge? And Ram (which should have stayed Dodge) and Jeep look like ther're on the ropes. Can anyone afford them? We bought a new car this year and test drove a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Smaller, more expensive and less reliable than what we eventually bought. And the dealership was like a tomb.
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New product or the final nail in Chryslers coffin?
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Not likely the final nail since Chrysler is likely to get a version of the Charger and the introduction of their new SUV at the end of the year to be a 2026MY, both as hybrid models. Chrysler's CEO should have quickly followed up her interview with at least teasers of the new products design. We only know the new models will take cues from the Halcyon, but how will that translate into real products.
Chrysler isn’t getting a hybrid SUV, this was the SUV Chrysler was getting…
An STLA large passenger car along the lines of the Halcyon is likely coming but not for awhile and details are very scarce. Unless it ends up getting mothballed too…
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Please no offense or disrespect here, but I have yet heard or seen ANY indication of any new Chrysler products in the pipeline outside of this vehicle that was just cancelled. Nothing here on this site, or on line or any car magazine. Other than their current boss Christine, saying some new product is coming, we have yet to see anything.
So if this is the case and new vehicles are still in development, that would mean they maybe, maybe, a few years out when no one under 35 will know what a Chrysler is. It will be late even putting out new vehicles by 2028 or 2030. I really hope you are so very right. If you are, I would actually enjoy eating crow!!! I am a die hard Chrysler/Dodge boy and I actually heartbroken at what has happened to my favorite car company!!
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Lexus had a record year of sales in 2024 while occupying Chrysler's old market niche. This month the Chrysler minivans top the list of slowest selling vehicles while the Toyota Sienna, on the other end of the list, is among the top 5 fastest selling vehicles.
It's hard to judge her effectiveness because she hasn't done anything..... I say that in jest, of course. What she has done well is cancel products in the middle or latter stages of development.
Didn't I read just this week that she confirmed the new SUV? Something doesn't add up.
Didn't I read just this week that she confirmed the new SUV? Something doesn't add up.
This is 100% the correct way forward. It's really too bad that damn near everything FCA was working towards got nuked and "reimagined" when the merger happened.
Bingo. The way I see it if they would have left the Airflow alone (yes it might be a bit bland, but it is in no way a bad-looking vehicle), the thing could have been in production the second STLA Large was ready to go.
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Then I'd advise you to start following this guy, he's been on the money with everything that's been happening with Stellantis. Every time he's spoken it's happened.
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Scarce to you, some of us look to other sources and have been for awhile.
Like when he said the Charger Daytona was delayed again and then the next day they were showing up to dealers?
No thanks, the only stuff he's been right about are things that have been on here or other credible sites before he did a video on them. Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
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Sorry, but I can attest to getting info from him and other youtubers days and/or weeks before it's posted here or anywhere else. I stopped coming here because of that catty posters that I now see are staffers, who can't stand being behind the 8 ball on what's happening in an arena they are supposedly in the know on. Just because you don't have a source or didn't hear the information before it's posted on other online forums doesn't mean that someone or two or three or more else don't have a better inside track.
Catty posters? I gave your reply the same tone you gave me.
You're free to get your information anywhere you like; there is nothing wrong with that.
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There scrapping the electric powertrain for that car since it's built on the same platform as the Dodge it'll get the straight 6.