BYD and Stellantis Dismiss Chrysler Acquisition Rumors

BYD and Stellantis Dismiss Chrysler Acquisition Rumors​

BYD Visits Spark Rumors, As Chrysler's Heir Eyes Brand Buyback...​

Rumors have been circulating in the automotive world that Chinese automaker BYD is eyeing a potential acquisition of Chrysler, one of the iconic brands under Stellantis. Both companies have publicly denied these claims, with BYD going as far as labeling the reports as “fake news” on their official Weibo account. Stellantis also issued a categorical denial, stating that no discussions are taking place with BYD.

BYD and Stellantis Dismiss Chrysler Acquisition Rumors

Rumors have been circulating in the automotive world that Chinese automaker BYD is eyeing a potential acquisition of Chrysler, one of the iconic brands under Stellantis. Both companies have publicly denied these claims, with BYD going as far as labeling the reports as "fake news" on their...

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[cgseller]

A few different stories could be told to "explain" the above.

*) BYD is learning by watching and visiting anyone who will let them behind the curtain
*) BYD is looking to get around US views/regulations of China
*) BYD is looking to partner with Stellantis like Leap did for the US, ala Diamond Star, NEMMA, Geo.....
*) BYD wants to use some brands/technology in China in exchange for supplying N.A. with components for future vehicles.

I'm sure there are a linty of more including pure fake conjecture. Both companies are traded, so of course they deny anything that would jeopardize or cause investigations around trading.

 

[MotorMaven]

Once BYD figures out a path into the US market, they’ll disrupt the heck out of it. Bring on the low cost, high quality BEVs that Detroit stubbornly refuses to make in a repeat of the 1970s!

 

[Hemi_Dart]

Stellantis = Fake Car Corp
It's a shame no one in The USA can run this company

 

[scatpack_69]

I will 100% swear them off if sold to china. I’ll never buy another new vehicle from them as long as I live. As bad as the PSA merger has been, won’t tolerate China. It’s bad enough we have to buy china made items in general, ownership is a different goose altogether

 

[MotorMaven]

I will 100% swear them off if sold to china. I’ll never buy another new vehicle from them as long as I live. As bad as the PSA merger has been, won’t tolerate China. It’s bad enough we have to buy china made items in general, ownership is a different goose altogether

People said that about Korea and Japan before, and ended up changing their minds.

When you see the quality vehicles at low prices that the Chinese automakers produce, you’ll be hard-pressed to pay 3x as much to get shoddy build quality and terrible reliability from “American” automakers who build all their stuff in Mexico with Chinese components.

 

[cgseller]

People said that about Korea and Japan before, and ended up changing their minds.

When you see the quality vehicles at low prices that the Chinese automakers produce, you’ll be hard-pressed to pay 3x as much to get shoddy build quality and terrible reliability from “American” automakers who build all their stuff in Mexico with Chinese components.

Yup!

 

[scatpack_69]

People said that about Korea and Japan before, and ended up changing their minds.

When you see the quality vehicles at low prices that the Chinese automakers produce, you’ll be hard-pressed to pay 3x as much to get shoddy build quality and terrible reliability from “American” automakers who build all their stuff in Mexico with Chinese components.

No, I absolutely will NOT change my mind. I will never, ever, ever own a Chinese car or truck. Period.

 

[redriderbob]

Stellantis Says Chinese Were Looking at Purchasing Brands​

Tavares Confirms Turning Down Offers for Stellantis Brands...​

At the 2024 Paris Motor Show, Stellantis Chairman John Elkann and CEO Carlos Tavaresaddressed recent speculations and made their intentions clear: the company is not considering any mergers or acquisitions at this time, despite interest from other automakers. Elkann and Tavares emphasized that Stellantis is focused on optimizing its current operations and maintaining its competitive position without seeking external partnerships.

Stellantis Says Chinese Were Looking at Purchasing Brands

At the 2024 Paris Motor Show, Stellantis Chairman John Elkann and CEO Carlos Tavares addressed recent speculations and made their intentions clear: the company is not considering any mergers or acquisitions at this time, despite interest from other automakers. Elkann and Tavares emphasized that...

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[TripleT]

For sure a Chrysler/Lancia/Opel-Vauxhall aquisition would be right in the Chinese Wheelhouse. Honestly if I was Travarse (I am not) I would have seriously addressed it. They could have worked at a distribution agreement. The Minivan could have been made by BYD inside Winsor, or even Belvedere .... Sign a Battery agreement as part of the deal.... Hard to believe they would be worse than Samsung. I know I know ... Xenophobia. Can't have the CCP running Classic brands except Volvo and MG ... Polestar

 

[TripleT]

Stellantis = Fake Car Corp
It's a shame no one in The USA can run this company

You mean like the New Yorkers Did? THAT WAS AWESOME ... When they ran the company so far into the ground they were Selling Jeep the Chinese, Ram to Japanese, and Minivan to Germans... and letting Dodge and Chrysler die .... What a job those Americans did.

And what about the Bean Counter John Riccardo he was freaken awesome.... that dude killed it like really almost killed it.

OHHHHH AND LET'S NOT FORGET ROBERT FingEATON ..... that dude.... Yeah GO AMERICA.

Yeah Shame we can't find Americans to run the company, like these guys.

Maybe, Merit over Nationality .... company has done best when run be product guys like Lutz and SM... and Lee although he lost his mind in love with chrome and landau roofs towards the later years.

 

[BWS1]

You mean like the New Yorkers Did? THAT WAS AWESOME ... When they ran the company so far into the ground they were Selling Jeep the Chinese, Ram to Japanese, and Minivan to Germans... and letting Dodge and Chrysler die .... What a job those Americans did.

And what about the Bean Counter John Riccardo he was freaken awesome.... that dude killed it like really almost killed it.

OHHHHH AND LET'S NOT FORGET ROBERT FingEATON ..... that dude.... Yeah GO AMERICA.

Yeah Shame we can't find Americans to run the company, like these guys.

Maybe, Merit over Nationality .... company has done best when run be product guys like Lutz and SM... and Lee although he lost his mind in love with chrome and landau roofs towards the later years.

Always get your Lee shots in you jack wagon. I’d say even Ricarro looks pretty
Good compared to this French fried bunch trying it now

 

[bill burke]

We could write volumes of speculative thoughts on these revelations from Stellantis, not so surprising were they, but why bother. For me the bottom line is that these conversations prove our legacy brands have value and appeal and that bottom line means we stay the course. Do we make changes in that course, let’s hope so, but taken one brand at a time, good things can result. I’m not ready, and it seems the Chinese and Stellantis leadership clearly, to walk away from our beloved brands. Panic, desperation and knee jerk thinking does not make for sound decisions. Let’s go bottom line here, fundamental thinking, a defined identity.
Chrysler- Affordable luxury, sedan, SUV, Coupe.
Dodge - Performance themed, mid size hatchback and coupe, Full size Charger sedan and coupe, Hornet and Durango SUV, Viper sports car.
Jeep - They currently have a great lineup mix, improve the quality.
Ram - Add a mid size pickup and improve current lineup.
Most important, Gas, mild hybrid or PLUG IN hybrid and electric in all brands. This is my key recommendation.
Simple, focused and achievable. Forget mergers, get this done.

 

[Mike201]

We could write volumes of speculative thoughts on these revelations from Stellantis, not so surprising were they, but why bother. For me the bottom line is that these conversations prove our legacy brands have value and appeal and that bottom line means we stay the course. Do we make changes in that course, let’s hope so, but taken one brand at a time, good things can result. I’m not ready, and it seems the Chinese and Stellantis leadership clearly, to walk away from our beloved brands. Panic, desperation and knee jerk thinking does not make for sound decisions. Let’s go bottom line here, fundamental thinking, a defined identity.
Chrysler- Affordable luxury, sedan, SUV, Coupe.
Dodge - Performance themed, mid size hatchback and coupe, Full size Charger sedan and coupe, Hornet and Durango SUV, Viper sports car.
Jeep - They currently have a great lineup mix, improve the quality.
Ram - Add a mid size pickup and improve current lineup.
Most important, Gas, mild hybrid or PLUG IN hybrid and electric in all brands. This is my key recommendation.
Simple, focused and achievable. Forget mergers, get this done.

Love the line ups Bill. Almost like the old days. The biggest problem now for Chrysler/Dodge and Ram they are one vehicle brands for the most part. Can’t exist on one brand per division. Your line up gives us what the old Chrysler did. More vehicles.

 

[TripleT]

Love the line ups Bill. Almost like the old days. The biggest problem now for Chrysler/Dodge and Ram they are one vehicle brands for the most part. Can’t exist on one brand per division. Your line up gives us what the old Chrysler did. More vehicles.

???????
you do realize the 2500 and 3500 are not the same as a 1500 and are extremely profitable. I count 8 products for ram and REV is on the way, and with the MidSized will 9. So my math is 9 is more than 1. Midsized would be a nice addition to make 10.

 

[TripleT]

Love the line ups Bill. Almost like the old days. The biggest problem now for Chrysler/Dodge and Ram they are one vehicle brands for the most part. Can’t exist on one brand per division. Your line up gives us what the old Chrysler did. More vehicles.

One, Two, Three, Four.....

but but but.... yeah they are behind..... blame the merger.

But you have the LB29EV, and LB29Gas .... LB49EV and LB49 Gas... You have the Stealth aka Durango and there will be STLA Mid replacement for the Hornet.

So, my math says 6 at no point has it or will it be 1. And if you don't count the EVs seperate you haven't discovered the issue from a assembly between pure ICE and Pure EV.

 

[TripleT]

The idea that a pure sedan for Chrysler will ever have ROI, is fan fiction unless it comes from a Chinese partnership. But I have been watching the Chinese market evolve and the pure transport Sedan is on the Clock. Chrysler will continue with Minivan and will expand with STLA Large and Medium offering likely in MPV / CUV space. I'd be lazy and just re-Grill a Peugeot for the Medium. They are well thought of in EU and trim is similar.


Those trying to define Chrysler as near or affordable Luxury .... please define Luxury by todays standard. Not the past .... It the past is was defined by the addition of Chrome, upgraded, wheels, softer ride, premium appointments, and luxurious options.

Today even a Low model of KIA can be had power everything, Leather everything, Digital everything, Level 2 or 3 autonomy .... where is niche for Chyrsler?

Wagoneer, RAM and JGC Summit can be had with the most Luxurious interior ever produced in the Company's history.... again, where is niche for Chrysler other to sell it for less margin.

So how are we defining Luxury? Audi or MB? or Tesla or Lucid... I doubt the later with this group.

Because we are going to go head to head with Genesis? Hmmmmmm? Yeah think it too late for that, that ended when Daimler made Chrysler ... Plymouth.

 

[Mike201]

oh gee, I wish I was so freaking perfect as you. When I think of the ram truck I think of a truck full size whether to 1500, 2500 or 3500. I apologize that I forgot the full size van.
As for Dodge, I did say couple vehicles if you read my comment. They’re down to one Charger two and four-door the Hornet, which isn’t selling in the Durango, which is on borrow time.
As for Chrysler all they selling is the minivan. Not sure if you know it, but this site is for people that are Chrysler fans, Mopar fans, enthusiast, etc. etc. We post our comments of what we’d like to see on this site and I think based on us being Americans, not sure where the heck you’re from, we have a right to freedom speech, but apparently every time somebody makes a comment that you don’t like, you MF us all the time and it’s getting really old. I’m surprised Mr. Miller hasn’t banded you from this website which he should!! Not sure what car company you were formally CEO, but you need to let people is give our view, even if it’s just wishful thinking on our part. If you want to write your own viewpoint , that’s fine but every time somebody else makes a comment you don’t have to MF them. It’s getting real old!!!

 

[bill burke]

The idea that a pure sedan for Chrysler will ever have ROI, is fan fiction unless it comes from a Chinese partnership. But I have been watching the Chinese market evolve and the pure transport Sedan is on the Clock. Chrysler will continue with Minivan and will expand with STLA Large and Medium offering likely in MPV / CUV space. I'd be lazy and just re-Grill a Peugeot for the Medium. They are well thought of in EU and trim is similar.


Those trying to define Chrysler as near or affordable Luxury .... please define Luxury by todays standard. Not the past .... It the past is was defined by the addition of Chrome, upgraded, wheels, softer ride, premium appointments, and luxurious options.

Today even a Low model of KIA can be had power everything, Leather everything, Digital everything, Level 2 or 3 autonomy .... where is niche for Chyrsler?

Wagoneer, RAM and JGC Summit can be had with the most Luxurious interior ever produced in the Company's history.... again, where is niche for Chrysler other to sell it for less margin.

So how are we defining Luxury? Audi or MB? or Tesla or Lucid... I doubt the later with this group.

Because we are going to go head to head with Genesis? Hmmmmmm? Yeah think it too late for that, that ended when Daimler made Chrysler ... Plymouth.

Always appreciate your thoughts as you do have a more pragmatic and informative sourced opinion than mine usually, but we are never at great odds on thinking. Yes, I am speaking as a Chrysler “fan” but I think that approach has value in these discussions. I do disagree that a domestically produced Chrysler sedan is not feasible and look to other imports that continue to crank out sedans to a waiting audience. The big challenge here is to see how much legacy does the Chrysler brand have up against that import competition after years of withering on the vine. Not sure myself. My thoughts would be to spin off the Dodge Daytona sedan with a very traditional Chrysler styling theme and upscale interior, maybe a bit longer. I suspect enough Chrysler fans are left that would go for that Chrysler. I loved my Chrysler 300, it still sold well in spite of zero marketing or any real updating. So T, should we give it a try? Not a major investment or leap of faith.
Hope having a fan in your circle is productive to the conversation. Too old to walk away from this idea. Now, about that Imperial....

 

[Mike201]

Apparently, you didn’t get my point. My point was this comment section is from Mopar fans to post things. What they miss about the old company, things they’d like to see or things they wish for. We are not all CEOs of car companies. We’re not know it alls we are car collectors in loyal to the Mopar brand. Unfortunately I want to apologize for saying your M/Fing us but the one thing you do do which aggravates a lot of people because I’ve seen them post things against you, is when we say something about our point of view you’re like a teacher and you take out a red pen and you pick apart everything we say. And I know I’m not the only one that complain to you about it in these comments sections. So the MF term that I use, I do apologize for using that when we say things we say things because we like the brand and hate to see it go by the wayside. We think the CEOs, President and Chairman of Chrysler, FCA or Stellantis that we think are doing wrong. Most of us understand that they cannot draw a diagram of a new car, build a concept and put it in production in one full year that’s not gonna happen and we all know that. Sometimes most of us write things we like to see happen. I do understand that you know a lot about the business or appear to know a lot about the Auto business when you make your statements, but honestly, I think you do go overboard by correcting us on every point we make or personal views. Again my apologies if I offended you with my terminology.