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Don't take my word for it. Have Bob go talk to Stellantis Media Relations. And once again, you refuse to acknowledge the absolute failure that has been Stellantis electric vehicles.
Anyone who has seen glimpses of those numbers can attest to it - you don't even specifically have to work @ Stellantis, but just working (generally) in automotive, on the business side. None of those numbers can be publicly published and you know that.
If you don't believe me, have Bob ask...
Have you ever looked at a Profit and Loss statement? Do you know how many Pentastar Challengers and Chargers you have to sell to equal the profit of a single Hellcat? Yes, there's room for multiple powertrains in a single platform, but enthusiasts generate the majority of profits for a vehicle...
I can get on board, eventually, with REEV. 20-30 years from now.
But there’s no conceivable universe where REEV isn’t insanely more expensive (without subsidies) vs V8 ICE.
Remember a couple years ago when people said per KwH battery costs were like Moore’s Law, in that price would decrease...
You’re aware that Dodge, Jeep, and Ram are primarily enthusiast brands - specifically, ICE enthusiasts.
Proof - the Charger EV and Wagoner S EV have totally and completely flopped, from a sales perspective.
Ask him how the Wagoneer S is doing so far this quarter. It's averaging about ~3500 (not a typo) sales per quarter, right? Stellantis Post It’s Sales Numbers For The U.S. In Q2 2025
They build the Wagoneer S in Toluca, which is also where they intend to build and export the Recon to the US and...
Next Ram 1500 is not a new platform, it uses STLA Frame. Bifurcation between old Ram 1500 (DT) serving as lower level trims with “new” Ram 1500 being higher level trims.
The body in white / sheet metal will differ between the two.
Everything you’re saying is from a financial picture of the company that has since passed, and subsequently deteriorated, quickly - in the matter of 60 days. 16 months is too late for a turnaround. They need a turnaround in 12 months. Again, turnaround is constrained by Hemi production.
The...
Maybe ask them again at Roadkill nights because the plans have changed.
Take a look at the stock price today vs a month ago, post-earnings. The company has lost 15% of its value and is bleeding cash. It is cauterizing the cash bleed (EVs).
And when did you talk to them last?
Exactly zero of the markets you’ve cited can sustain the actual and opportunity costs for these vehicles on a program basis.
It’s all hands on deck to get some 5.7, 6.4, and Hellcat engine production stateside, and to rip most of the stuff out of Dundee and...
What the hell are you talking about? They stopped making Hemi Ram 1500 for MY2025. It's been one full calendar year since they stopped making Hemi Ram 1500s, and SHAP just started production for the 2026 Ram 1500 Hemi this week. There are ZERO (new) 2024 Ram 1500 Hemis remaining on dealer lots...
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