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$62k base for a wrangler??? How tf are they "surprised" nobody is buying them.
..Seriously... let that sink on for a minute...
You can get a bigger (and seemingly better "looking") Bronco for $10-20k LESS. I hope these new Stellantis folks get their act together ASAP or there won't even BE a...
I appreciate your open mindedness but your enthusiasm may be short sighted.
I mean... ifyou only care about a badge, why do you even want a Dodge in the first place?
I've bought Chrysler products for the brilliant engineering, excellent value, and honestly their car-enthusiast focus on the...
Honestly, it's wayyyyyy too soon to start assuming anything about quality from Chinese market cars. If you actually live over there you'd see that they're all smoke and mirrors for the most part. Electronic gremlins, software shortcomings, frame and components rusting in less than one year...
I'M SO SICK OF THIS.
Every year there's another last last last hellcat. It's getting played out.
Meanwhile, Dodge used to be about affordable performance. What part of $113k msrp before tax is "affordable"?
But maybe more importantly, where's the NEW Durango???
I'm over it.
But yeah...
$40K FOR A COMPACT "DOMESTIC" SUV??? AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SURPRISED THAT NOBODY WANTS A HORNET??? That's to say nothing about the fact that it's a non-luxury brand, or the fact that most folks also know it's a rebadged alfa/fiat... aka reliability problems... talk about misreading the buyers!
I guess someone needs to say it. Fiats are only good if you plan to buy it cheap and run it into the ground. And that's their real problem.
To be more specific, the physical quality/durability of the supplier components is inconsistent at best. And unless you plan to drive to genuinely drive...
so you're basically blaming "diversity hiring" for Stellantis shifting production to Poland and Serbia? ... Pretty sure it was more about avoiding unions and costs. There's nothing remotely new about businesses putting shareholders before workers - and you can't try to reframe this reality...
I'm coming from several years of dealership experience. JD power is not a good measurement. Most companies can build a car with limited problems in the first 90 days and that's all JD power looks at. Unfortunately, in the real world, the issues start popping up after 90 days and on most fiat...
You're kind of all over the place there.
Talk to me about Giulia's "reliability". Talk to me about how Dodge and Ram have high rankings in their segment for dependability while Jeep is drowning under the weight of the fiat platforms (Cherokee, renegade, compass) and all their gremlins and...
Hate to ruin the party, but it's almost definitely going to be a failed, overweight electric second-coming off the 4C. Probably using a French platform (or one of the new stellantis platforms) and will be overpriced for what you're getting -- and will never be light enough to handle like an Alfa...
OMG... Can we just NOT?
Don't get me wrong. I love what Alfa Romeo used to be. But they seriously haven't had a car worth talking about since the 159 and the Brera.
The Giulia was a massive waste of money, along with the Stelvio and even the 4C. Each one of those would have been a neat...
The light up grill screams 1968-1970 charger. There were rumors of a Baracuda return as well but the word "Charger" is so ripe for wordplay with electricity that it seems to be a given that this would be the 2024 Charger and that the challenger will appear after.
I for one hope it looks more...
the article says "the first of a trio of new models of the new fifth-generation Grand Cherokee (WL)" ...Obviously the 3 row WL75 is the first, and the WL74 is the second, but what is the "third" version??
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