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The Recon looks...ugly. The Challenger looks ok...That's one hell of a D pillar. The split-screen infotainment (two separate screens) for Driver odometers and center stack infotainment look old/cheap compared single pane of glass / 33-inch OLED on Cadillac Lyriq, which will now be standard on...

It was one time, pent up demand for Gladiator. Other than the eventual launch for JM later this decade, Wrangler + Gladiator sales are going to be 150Kish per year (probably 180-190K this year, slowly sliding down to 150K over the remainder of their current platform lives), if STLA is lucky...

There's nothing novel about combining 2018 JK and JL sales. They were producing JK on the line that would later go on to be renovated and produce the Gladiator. Yes they went higher margin and did well with intro year pent up demand in 2018 and 2019 with both Wrangler and Gladiator. And higher...

"Stellantis overall will surpass cost savings projection of the merger this year." BS - '24 Wrangler order book just opened and pricing just went 8% higher, again. Mid-30K for Hornet G/T? Pass. 2022 Wrangler + Gladiator sales of 250K-ish, combined, barely beat 2018 Wrangler sales of 240K...

Wrangler and Gladiator sales are 20% off their peak, and continue to fall. Same is true for Grand Cherokee and Ram - volume peaked, Jeep has more inventory on lots than any other brand. Wagoner sales have been underwhelming - it really ought to hit 75K this year, at minimum, to pay for its...

Agreed. There are no STLA 'passion Product' EVs in the same manner as the existing STLA ICE vehicles. STLA cannot get away with their same shenanigans with an EV Jeep portfolio that they did with the ICE Jeep portfolio. I'm only talking about the US, I could care less what STLA Europe does, but...

Because nothing will ever beat the reliability of a naturally aspirated engine. Most truck owners do not want turbos. You are the only individual on this forum, amongst a group of Hemi owners, who is asking for a lower displacement/turbo engine.

Every day it stays closed, the more likely that nothing will come of it. The supply chain chain around the plant is dying/dead. Can it be resurrected? Possibly. Will it be resurrected? I doubt it. My guess is that they will build a new (EV exclusive) plant somewhere in the US. Hopefully they...

There is not a single person who works for Chrysler that wouldn't have traded 20% of their profit sharing to keep Belvidere open. It's greed - pure and simple. TBD on whether I ever buy a vehicle again from this company. Check out https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/ - every single...

Good job Tavares, good job Elkann. (/sarcasm)

Interesting tidbit from the 3L Inline 6 BMW mild hybrid - "2024 BMW X5 Buyers Guide" "Finally, the standard six-cylinder X5 will get around 23 MPG combined. We’ll update this section when the EPA releases official figures." That seems a bit conservative to me. The existing 4WD WK2 gets 21 MPG...

@Derek - initially Bob said there would be two ICE next generation L cars, but I'm not so sure anymore. I don't know if STLA has officially said if the 2023 L cars are the last model year, officially. They've made a hoopla about these 'Last Call Limited Edition' cars, but I don't know if they've...

Tavares, Elkann. Those are the two people responsible for this.

It’s sounding like there will only be one next generation ICE L CAR.

I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed. I have one last hope for this company. Just copy what BMW is doing, that's all I'm asking. 3L with a mild hybrid. My requirements for a new Grand Cherokee - 1) Mild hybrid 2) Next generation Apple Carplay integration - Apple Launching All-New...

the next L car is 100% not being sold in calendar 2023. Calendar 2024, if we’re lucky.

Next generation Charger - Calendar 2024 (hopefully?) - yes it will have the I6 Ram 1500 - start of Production is November 2023, I think, so deliveries in 2024 - yes it will have the I6 Refreshed Wrangler / Gladiator - TBD but probably yes, late Calendar 2024 or 2025 Grand Cherokee - last of the...

Yes the current eTorque for the 1500 is a mild hybrid option when the current generation (DT) Ram entered production for the 2019MY (calendar 2018). The first generation eTorque can yield a successor with a next generation (eTorque 2.0), using the new ZF transmission that has just entered...

For the 1500 - they may axe the 5.7 and replace it with 3L, and if you want a V8, you’re going to have to pay a lot more (6.4L only). Remember this when they gaslight the public and tell you the V8 isn’t economically feasible because of emissions. They are all lying - they could easily do a 5.7...

If they were running around metro Detroit, they would have emergency push button shutdown buttons sitting on the front dash (large red button - you would know it when you see it, its used across the industry). There are no Grand Cherokee camoed vehicles running around Detroit, other than the...