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Hardly anyone will buy this because it will, in typical STLA fashion, be vastly overpriced. EU STLA profits are cratering. All that marketshare with nothing to show for it. Barely half the profits that North America brings in. Yet North America is treated as the whipping boy.

There is some hope that the motors and battery capacity will improve for the 2025 2L 4xE refresh.

AMEN

Source - Remember this banger, from some guy who thinks he knows Chrysler / the Automotive Industry because he worked as an IT Vendor for Chrysler back in the 90s? What an absolute IDIOT -

Lmao -

He would rather drive it into the ground that admit he was wrong

I just added you to my ignored list - frankly you should be banned

Lol, and you’re charging every day and have a very short commute. Only something like 25% of PHEV owners bother charging, EVER. When I read that I was floored.

What vehicles are you comparing when you're referencing a 40% improvement? Are you referring to something other than MPG? A 3.6L ICE Wrangler has 285 HP, gets 23 MPG combined, and has 332 miles of total range. Now here's what it gets tricky - A 4xE Wrangler has 375 HP, but only gets 270ish...

5.7 stock - 0-60 / 5 seconds flat 0-100 / 11.7 seconds No replacement for displacement. All that crazy complexity and increase in cost, for zero benefit, from the same people that said 'trust the science' and shut down society for the better part of two years.

Butter is 100% on the mark and has correctly called it, starting in late 2022/early 2023 of what was coming down the pipe (disaster). I'm sure the idiots in Paris/CTC see him as a panic merchant - maybe take a look at the sales tables and look in the mirror guys. Where's the 3L PHEV? BMW and...

JNAP2 was greenlit by Sergio. WTAP renovation happened under Sergio. Ram 1500 @ SHAP happened under Sergio. Sergio had his faults (Alfa/Fiat) for sure, but things boomed under his watch - Erik & Dave @ Allpar and anyone else who aligns to their stupidity are idiots for thinking otherwise.

Have you not seen what the Federal Reserve is able to do the last 15 years with respect to fiscal stimulus / open market operations such as buying long dated Treasuries from Primary Dealers (to keep the yield curve down) and propping the market up with buying the S&P Index? (which was a favorite...

Cant wait for Trump to withhold federal highway funds from California.

What will be 2025 4xE upgrade bring? How much of an increase in electric range? https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/future-jeep-plans-revealed-including-next-gen-j70-wrangler-ev-repb.120833/

Absolute insanity. I paid $39.5K for the 2018 WK2 Limited in October 2018

Imagine being this stupid.

Top Executive Team - Company Daimler 2.0

KM, being built in Mexico, should start around $30Kish. Compass is vastly overpriced, albeit it finally got the 2L engine, but Compass is only going to be around for another year or two before the next generation is built in Brampton, which will most assuredly get the 1.3L as the base and a 1.3L...

Stellantis is so incredibly lazy - all they have to do is copy BMW for the I6 PHEV. If they think people are going to buy the 2025 Grand Cherokee with a 2L (now the only powertrain offered in MY25) at the same price at the Grand Cherokee with a Pentastar, they're out of their mind. I'm sure Dave...