Jeep® Launches Bold Campaign for the All-Electric Wagoneer S

[TripleT]

This Wagoneer S is a BEV only vehicle. It won't sell to half the country and I doubt it sells well in California or New York. Time will tell. I hope all Jeeps sell well. I'm rooting for them and not against them. I just think the tide is turning against BEV and coming back to more common sense practicality. BEV is a niche type vehicle and not practical for everyone. And I'm sure people in the Northeast who own BEV's are a little more concerned with this cold front moving in knowing their cars have about 2/3 of the range they normally do.

I don't know to explain this any clearer..... To sell in 9 of the most populated states and part of the CARB state, half the US Population. SELL ANYTHING. Truck, Van, ICE anything else, your fleet has to be 30% Zero Emission TODAY... RIGHT THIS MOMENT.

This escalates every year until its 100%. All your argue and ruminations mean NOTHING to the regulators. NOTHING. Betting these deep blue state find jesus is losing prop.

Wagoneer S is on the STLA large which means it can be offered with other powertrains, But the volume isn't that high, the volume model will be the KM and it will have 3 powertrain options.

 

[Jeeper1961]

I don't know to explain this any clearer..... To sell in 9 of the most populated states and part of the CARB state, half the US Population. SELL ANYTHING. Truck, Van, ICE anything else, your fleet has to be 30% Zero Emission TODAY... RIGHT THIS MOMENT.

This escalates every year until its 100%. All your argue and ruminations mean NOTHING to the regulators. NOTHING. Betting these deep blue state find jesus is losing prop.

Wagoneer S is on the STLA large which means it can be offered with other powertrains, But the volume isn't that high, the volume model will be the KM and it will have 3 powertrain options.

And I'm saying the current legislation is going to change. If Cali and New York want to go on their own, let them. Most of Cali does not want BEV. They will drive across state lines to buy a car or whatever it takes. I'm not about to let a idiot bureaucrat tell me what I can and can't drive. And I think the new administration taking office in 2 weeks feels the same.

 

[TripleT]

And I'm saying the current legislation is going to change. If Cali and New York want to go on their own, let them. Most of Cali does not want BEV. They will drive across state lines to buy a car or whatever it takes. I'm not about to let an idiot bureaucrat tell me what I can and can't drive. And I think the new administration taking office in 2 weeks feels the same.

Not sure what you don’t understand

It is 18 states… 9 have already instituted the mandates the most populated, over half the US population.

Driving across the boarder only helps if you move, as it is sell or register.

Federal laws have no bearing,

As for these 9 to 18 states finding Jesus in the next couple years. Don’t count on it, if anything they double down. In fact New York just instituted more anti-energy policies mid-winter.

OEMs can’t give up half the US market, because Joe Forum Guy thinks Blue State Regulators with suddenly have a change of heart.

As for all these Californians ….. well they should pay more attention while voting cuz they have directly voted otherwise

 

[Jeeper1961]

Change is a coming! That is all I have to say.
Regards,
Joe Forum Guy

 

[WXman]

The review I watched on the Wagoneer S last night was....not good. And the reviewer had many legitimate points to make.

Jeep and Dodge have wasted gobs of cash. Let's see if they have the ability to turn the ship over the next year or two.

 

[patfromigh]

Change is a coming! That is all I have to say.
Regards,
Joe Forum Guy

The auto manufacturers themselves will not allow cross border shopping from CARB states, and that will create a constitutional crisis., because at that point it is one state imposing laws on another state. My prediction for CARB is that it's going to be gelded. The unelected board has way overstepped its authority, and there is a 26 state lawsuit against it weaving its way through the federal courts.

 

[TripleT]

its not the dealers, its that it cannot be registered .... so of course they can't do like here where I bought my Alfa in Ky instead of Ind and the handled the transaction. It is not possible.

 

[james.mooney.]

I finally saw these in person for the first time the other day. I'd been trying to find one near me but no one had any in stock (right outside West Philadelphia) but the dealership near my sister (a little farther out in the suburbs) had a bunch of them.

The first thing I noticed is how poorly photographs capture how cool, sleek, and sporty these cars look. They are gorgeous in person-- very premium, but more sporty than luxurious.

The second thing I noticed is how much smaller they look in person than I was imagining them from photos (I had the same reaction when I first saw the Charger Daytona-- it's big but looks bigger in pictures, IMO). In person, the Wagoneer S looks closer in size to a Compass than the Grand Cherokee (a new Cherokee around the same size should fill the gap between them nicely). I think I pictured it being bigger than it is because I knew the Wagoneer S is nearly as long as a GC (192.4" vs 193.5") and I was picturing it being taller than it is. It is only about 65" tall: about 6 inches shorter than a GC, about 6 inches taller than a Chrysler 200, and about an inch taller than the Compass.

The only thing that failed to impress me was the front grill. It looks better in photos-- looks kind of cheap in person, IMO.