CAUGHT: 2025 Jeep® Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve

TripleT · Jul 10, 2024

2.oL T pulls my summit around better than the Pentastar pulled my Durango.

shoulderboards · Jul 10, 2024

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RedHellcat22 said:
I was looking forward to the mid-cycle refresh, but really do not want the turbo 4. Moving from our Explorer to the GC, my wife loves the v6. Yes it’s not a race car and the 2.3 turbo in the Explorer made more power, you just had to run it hard to make It go. I was hoping the inline 6 would be standard at least on the Summit at $70k. Looks like a 24 GC in our future.

One must realize the current leadership making critical product planning decisions are not cut from the same cloth as Lee Iacocca. Stellantis is comprised of Fiat managers imported from Italy making US product decisions based on their European experience. Would Iacocca discontinue strong-selling cars like Charger and Challenger without already having replacements ready to launch? No way.
Likewise, would Lee discontinue the popular Hemi powertrain in the Grand Cherokee without a comparable replacement? Of course not.
Without a Hurricane 6 in the GC to assuage the dissatisfaction of seeing a 4 cylinder wheezer in such an iconic vehicle, Stellantis should prepare to signify lower sales projections for the 2025 GC.

ipa0628 · Jul 10, 2024

shoulderboards said:
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One must realize the current leadership making critical product planning decisions are not cut from the same cloth as Lee Iacocca. Stellantis is comprised of Fiat managers imported from Italy making US product decisions based on their European experience. Would Iacocca discontinue strong-selling cars like Charger and Challenger without already having replacements ready to launch? No way.
Likewise, would Lee discontinue the popular Hemi powertrain in the Grand Cherokee without a comparable replacement? Of course not.
Without a Hurricane 6 in the GC to assuage the dissatisfaction of seeing a 4 cylinder wheezer in such an iconic vehicle, Stellantis should prepare to signify lower sales projections for the 2025 GC.

I'm sure the Ram sales will collapse also once all of the Hemis disappear from the lots. There are so many '25 Rams sitting on the lots in my area with the 3.6. I'm sure someone looking for a Hemi will want nothing to do with them. They then will move onto GM or Ford for the V8 power.

TripleT · Jul 10, 2024

shoulderboards said:
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One must realize the current leadership making critical product planning decisions are not cut from the same cloth as Lee Iacocca. Stellantis is comprised of Fiat managers imported from Italy making US product decisions based on their European experience. Would Iacocca discontinue strong-selling cars like Charger and Challenger without already having replacements ready to launch? No way.
Likewise, would Lee discontinue the popular Hemi powertrain in the Grand Cherokee without a comparable replacement? Of course not.
Without a Hurricane 6 in the GC to assuage the dissatisfaction of seeing a 4 cylinder wheezer in such an iconic vehicle, Stellantis should prepare to signify lower sales projections for the 2025 GC.

This is xenophobic nonsense….the leadership is cut exactly same cloth as Lee, one car dozens of different Coachwork powered by Turbo 4. That 4 pulls around Wranglers better than ancient pentastar this just sound like ignorance

shoulderboards · Jul 10, 2024

You are entitled to your opinion, baseless as it is. We’ll all see how 2025 GC sales compare to previous years versions. Then you can preach from your soapbox.

TripleT · Jul 10, 2024

shoulderboards said:
You are entitled to your opinion, baseless as it is. We’ll all see how 2025 GC sales compare to previous years versions. Then you can preach from your soapbox.

Define baseless….

Facts is pulls around the Heavier Wrangler better than the Pentastar.

Fact when paired with the Hybrid ZF it pulls around better than the Eagle.

Fact I own both a Durango and WL

I’d like the 6 also but it not the end of the world

GringoLingo · Jul 23, 2024

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Why the engines get smaller and less desirable but the price go UP!

GringoLingo · Jul 23, 2024

Where is Jeep getting all of its crappy engine ideas?

AlexB · Jul 23, 2024

GringoLingo said:
Where is Jeep getting all of its crappy engine ideas?

These engines are in-line with the Explorer.

TripleT · Jul 23, 2024

GringoLingo said:
Where is Jeep getting all of its crappy engine ideas?

Are you just another member with a new name or did you really just join to make poorly informed post.

98% people never even count the spark plugs, it is not about cubic inches. It is about power, torque, durability and efficiency. V6 is ancient, not the best for power, durability, complexity, or efficiency. Yah going to pretend the Pentastar never had problems? How about Hemi, going to revise tick tick tick that it was some sort of durability champ?

NEW IS SCARY :'( :'( incumbent solution is the only solution.

And before you say the Ford engines are not that good... that applies to all of them 5.4 is one the least durable engine made

Ryan · Jul 23, 2024

For all the issues my Grand Cherokee had, I at least felt like the 3.6/8-speed combo was reliable.

Hopefully the 2.0 will be as well…

TripleT · Jul 24, 2024

2Liter is an upgrade and has been in the Wrangler for years.

shoulderboards · Jul 24, 2024

Contrary to certain posters here, anyone considering a $70K+ GC Overland or Summit is not going to be happy with a 4-cylinder power plant. Even Ford gives Explorer buyers a choice between a 4-cylinder turbo motor or a 6-cylinder turbo. When those at Stellantis suddenly see GC sales plummet next year with only one engine offering you will see a miraculous move to install the 6-cylinder Hurricane into the GC as an option in order to prevent the demise of the model.

TripleT · Jul 24, 2024

My four cylinder powerplant outperforms the Eagle so much for that theory. Most people don't know what is under that plastic cover contrary to what the enthusiast think here.

patfromigh · Jul 24, 2024

shoulderboards said:
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One must realize the current leadership making critical product planning decisions are not cut from the same cloth as Lee Iacocca. Stellantis is comprised of Fiat managers imported from Italy making US product decisions based on their European experience. Would Iacocca discontinue strong-selling cars like Charger and Challenger without already having replacements ready to launch? No way.
Likewise, would Lee discontinue the popular Hemi powertrain in the Grand Cherokee without a comparable replacement? Of course not.
Without a Hurricane 6 in the GC to assuage the dissatisfaction of seeing a 4 cylinder wheezer in such an iconic vehicle, Stellantis should prepare to signify lower sales projections for the 2025 GC.

The Charger was discontinued just before Lee Iaccoca stepped into Highland Park, but soon after he brought the Charger back. Challenger sales were dwindling, but the Daytona soon replaced it. Some kind of Hemi engine would live well into the 1980's thanks to Mitsubishi.

Don't forget, while at Ford, Lee gave us the Mustang and then a decade later he saved the car from oblivion with the Mustang II.

AlexB · Jul 24, 2024

shoulderboards said:
Contrary to certain posters here, anyone considering a $70K+ GC Overland or Summit is not going to be happy with a 4-cylinder power plant. Even Ford gives Explorer buyers a choice between a 4-cylinder turbo motor or a 6-cylinder turbo. When those at Stellantis suddenly see GC sales plummet next year with only one engine offering you will see a miraculous move to install the 6-cylinder Hurricane into the GC as an option in order to prevent the demise of the model.

Contrary to some un-educated POV, PHEV(4XE) is the top powertrain.
Also the Traverse is 4 cylinder too.

ipa0628 · Jul 24, 2024

shoulderboards said:
Contrary to certain posters here, anyone considering a $70K+ GC Overland or Summit is not going to be happy with a 4-cylinder power plant. Even Ford gives Explorer buyers a choice between a 4-cylinder turbo motor or a 6-cylinder turbo. When those at Stellantis suddenly see GC sales plummet next year with only one engine offering you will see a miraculous move to install the 6-cylinder Hurricane into the GC as an option in order to prevent the demise of the model.

I had the unfortunate ownership experience of having a '14 Ram with a 3.6. That thing was horrible on the interstate hills in the mountains of VA and NC, and also locally in the hilly area I live. My '16 Ram with the Hemi gets better gas mileage on those same roads than the 3.6 ever could hope to , all the while running at much lower rpm's than the 3.6, 1500 at 70 mph. The 3.6 climbing hills screaming at 500 rpm's is not conducive to good gas mileage. The little 2.0 will do the same thing in these heavy vehicles.. I'm already seeing owner comments in a couple forums along with other tests where the new GM SUV's, Acadia etc, are getting the same or worse mileage than the V6. In the end all we gain is a nosier, more course engine in a 70K suv.

kp1a · Aug 17, 2024

shoulderboards said:
Contrary to certain posters here, anyone considering a $70K+ GC Overland or Summit is not going to be happy with a 4-cylinder power plant. Even Ford gives Explorer buyers a choice between a 4-cylinder turbo motor or a 6-cylinder turbo. When those at Stellantis suddenly see GC sales plummet next year with only one engine offering you will see a miraculous move to install the 6-cylinder Hurricane into the GC as an option in order to prevent the demise of the model.

I agree with that. I have a '21 L Summit Reserve which I leased and hoped for a higher performance option when it came time to get something new. While it'll be cool to have a slightly larger screen and a mildly revised front fascia, I won't be buying a 2.0 GC. I was actually at a LR dealer and may turn in the lease and trade in my '20 Rubicon on a new Defender V8. There aren't many options for those of us who want a certain level of luxury amenities in a rugged off-road capable vehicle. Ths only other option I've found is the new GX but they're next to impossible to get still. Certainly would have liked to move into a new GC with a Hurricane I6.

Midnight · Aug 22, 2024

kp1a said:
I agree with that. I have a '21 L Summit Reserve which I leased and hoped for a higher performance option when it came time to get something new. While it'll be cool to have a slightly larger screen and a mildly revised front fascia, I won't be buying a 2.0 GC. I was actually at a LR dealer and may turn in the lease and trade in my '20 Rubicon on a new Defender V8. There aren't many options for those of us who want a certain level of luxury amenities in a rugged off-road capable vehicle. Ths only other option I've found is the new GX but they're next to impossible to get still. Certainly would have liked to move into a new GC with a Hurricane I6.

I was at a LR dealer the other day too, looking at CPO options. Found it interesting that a some point they made the low range transfer case an option on the RRS. They were not options on the two previous I owned in 2010 and 2016. Even they are moving away from the capabilities they once defined themselves by.

Midnight · Aug 22, 2024

Does anyone know when the official launch of the 2025 GJC will be and when order books might open?

CAUGHT: 2025 Jeep® Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve