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The new Dundee engine, with integrated trans and electric Motor??

TripleT

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I have ALL SORTS of questions?

Will this Fit where a Pure Electric motor fits?

Can it support AWD or will that require e-axle?

Is this the solution over the disconnect Miller cycle engines?... Certainly not in FRAME?

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Based on this it looks to be for Mid, not the Large.
 
I'm just thinking out loud on this. The Punch transaxles are for transverse front drive based applications. I have looked at the Recon pictures on the other thread and it sure looks like a front driver based upon the axle to door frame length. ZF and Kokomo are scheduled to provide longitudinal rear drive based hybrid transmissions. (The last I heard, an insider could provide more current info.)

The Toyota Crown sedan offers Hybrid Max option. It has a transverse turbo-four cylinder combined with a six speed automatic transmission. A unique detail about the Hybrid Max Crown is that the rear drive unit for the e-axle is the same one used in Toyota's BZ4x EV. While Toyota's platform for this model isn't as flexible as the STLA medium and large platforms, it does show what can be done. BTW, the Hybrid Max Crown sedan lists 340 hp and 400 ft/lbs of torque.

Will Jeep offer simply replace the front EV drive unit on the Recon with an IC engine transmission and leave the rear e-motor unit in place for a PHEV option?
 
Video shows the KM and Recon could have the engines mounted the wrong way :)

I didn't realize that was a option on the Large, I assume that will be required on the Mid
 
redriderbob said:
1.6-liter HEV from Dundee will make its debut in the upcoming Jeep® Cherokee (KM).
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Wrong choice if you ask me.

It should be Millerized 2.0 but what do I know.

A lot, really a lot of wrong powertrain/engine planning and development choices on bog sides of the pond.
 
Bili said:
Wrong choice if you ask me.

It should be Millerized 2.0 but what do I know.

A lot, really a lot of wrong powertrain/engine planning and development choices on bog sides of the pond.
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I think the 2.0 is oversized in most application, I would rather see a 1.3 used. The PSA engines are not no that well thought of,

Although when acting at constant speed maybe it will be fine. Unique to build it as an integrated unit that replaces the EV motor setup.
 
TripleT said:
I think the 2.0 is oversized in most application, I would rather see a 1.3 used. The PSA engines are not no that well thought of,

Although when acting at constant speed maybe it will be fine. Unique to build it as an integrated unit that replaces the EV motor setup.
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Look. Mildly if not low boost. High compression ratio and hybrid.

Hint: European short lived 1.5 GSE which had great plans but Manley and Tavares killed it.
 
This engine might work for entry level models, but most people are going to want something with more power for a vehicle this size. I get why they would use the 1.6T because everything else in this segment besides the Tiguan is using a similar size powerplant. Unless with Tavares gone, they are going to release more ICE models with including Wagoneer S with a ICE variant to keep buyers from going to other brands.
 
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The powerplant only needs enough power to run the generator and stay ahead of Electric motor drive power demands while the peaks can be even out with the battery.

HEV movement changes the equation and how to look a power.
 
Bili said:
Look. Mildly if not low boost. High compression ratio and hybrid.

Hint: European short lived 1.5 GSE which had great plans but Manley and Tavares killed it.
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the 1.5-liter is still going strong in the Tonale Hybrid
 
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