Stellantis reach deal with California on emissions.

[AlexB]

Stellantis today announced a partnership with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) demonstrating the Company’s resolve to achieve its industry-leading ambition to be carbon net zero by 2038, aligned with its Dare Forward 2030 strategic plan.

As part of the agreement with CARB, Stellantis pledged to expand its ongoing commitment to strengthen its electrification offensive through educational efforts for U.S. consumers and dealers on the benefits of electric vehicles (EV). This includes collaborating with Veloz, the leader in promoting EV awareness efforts, providing discounted EVs to organizations in disadvantaged communities, and building upon ongoing efforts and contributing an additional $10 million for the installation of public EV chargers.

“Together, we have found a win-win solution that is good for the customer and good for the planet,” said Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares. “This agreement will avoid 10 to 12 million metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions over the lifetime of the agreement and will also allow our U.S. customers to fully benefit from our advanced technologies, including five plug-in hybrids and two pure electric vehicles. We remain as determined as ever to offer sustainable options across our brand portfolio and being a leader in the global decarbonization efforts.”

“This partnership with Stellantis will help California achieve our ambitious goals to drastically cut pollution and get more clean cars on the roads,” said California Governor Gavin Newsom. “The biggest and most influential companies in the world understand that this is how we can fight climate change together, and it’s another example of the private sector joining California to help millions of people get into clean vehicles.”

“California’s work with leading manufacturers is an example of the collaboration that will clean our air, combat climate change and improve health outcomes for residents in the state,” said CARB Chair Liane Randolph. “Importantly, industry collaboration helps accelerate the deployment of zero-emissions options that will make a more sustainable future possible.”

“California’s persistent air pollution and the growing threat of climate change require action and innovation, and our collaboration with Stellantis is an example of the industry partnerships that will further a clean air future,” said CARB Executive Officer Dr. Steven Cliff. “Collaborations like this ensures healthier air for Californians and certainty for manufacturers.”

Stellantis currently sells five plug-in hybrids in the U.S., including the number one selling Jeep® Wrangler 4xe, Jeep® Grand Cherokee 4xe, Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid, Dodge Hornet and Alfa Romeo Tonale. Two pure electric vehicles are also available – FIAT 500e and Ram ProMaster EV. The Company plans to introduce eight new BEV models this year in the U.S., as part of its planned offering of 48 BEV nameplates globally by end of 2024.

As part of the pact, Stellantis will comply with California’s electric-car mandates even if the policy can’t be enforced “as a result of judicial or federal action,” according to a statement from Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom’s office.In return, the automaker will have an easier path to meet California’s demands. Stellantis’ sales of plug-in hybrids and EVs in all 50 states can now be counted toward fulfilling the state’s requirements. Previously, the company could only tally deliveries in California and more than a dozen other states that have adopted the standards.

Stellantis and California Partner to Drive Carbon Emissions Reduction Efforts, MSN

 

[TripleT]

Full steam ahead to push people to public Transport in CARB states.

 

[JohnRogers]

Happy for Stella but ew-gross.

 

[AlexB]

Full steam ahead to push people to public Transport in CARB states.

Yes, however the ""45's"/opposition party(to the current ruling Executive branch ) can't get out its own way, and lags BIG TIME in fundraising(also paying "45" attorney fees).

 

[TripleT]

Again, CARB has NOTHING to do with Federal Government, and is settled law all the way up to the Supreme Court.

Current Executive is proposing punitive regulations from the EPA, but that is a separate but related issue.

 

[AlexB]

Again, CARB has NOTHING to do with Federal Government, and is settled law all the way up to the Supreme Court.

Current Executive is proposing punitive regulations from the EPA, but that is a separate but related issue.

Yes, but Governor office made this point: ":Stellantis will comply with California’s electric-car mandates even if the policy can’t be enforced “as a result of judicial or federal action,”
It could be grand standing , but it acknowledge some elements can be challenge. But Stellantis rightfully prefers some certainty.

 

[TripleT]

Yes, but Governor office made this point: ":Stellantis will comply with California’s electric-car mandates even if the policy can’t be enforced “as a result of judicial or federal action,”
It could be grand standing , but it acknowledge some elements can be challenge. But Stellantis rightfully prefers some certainty.

To be clear I AM NEVER in favor of Market interference, but at this point it is the Regulatory Reality that all the OEMs are dealing with.

This issue has already ridden all the way up the Judicial ladder. So at this point it just postering.

 

[patfromigh]

The problem I see with Stellantis is they seem to have myopia concerning the market. I don't think the Charger Daytona EV will sell vey well. I say this not because it's an EV, but because it misses the mainstream market. Consumers are very reluctant to buy an EV for a number of reasons, the electric Charger Daytona probably will do very little to address those concerns. The weight and gimmicks of it are overabundant, plus this model is aimed at the early adopters, who have already adopted an EV.

The Ram REV faces an uphill battle due to the Ford F-150 Lightning sales debacle. Ford got a bunch of people to sign on at the introduction with a base price hinted of at around 40K, but the real sticker price is double that. The Lightning was delayed enough to run into this winter's blizzard of bad EV news. There are a lot of unsold Lightnings contributing to a horrendous resale value for that pickup truck. I doubt the Ram REV sticker price will be anywhere close to the price of a used F-150 Lightning.

The Mopar Insiders article states the Fiat 500e and the Ram ProMaster EV are "available." The Fiats are in the process of being built when I look it up. Fiat is still hobbled by the terrible marketing decisions of the Fiat USA management. The ProMaster EV is sold out for months ahead, which is a good problem to have, but finding one of those beasts at a dealer is simply out of the question.

I still predict that the Wagoneer S is a battery electric take on the Grand Cherokee Track Hawk and will share that model''s limited sales niche. Hopefully, the Jeep Recon will avoid the silly gimmicks and excessive weight of its unfortunate Dodge EV cousin.

What Stellantis is doing right is seen by their Free-2-Move business unit and involvement with the IONNA project. IMO, the Fiat brand in North America needs to be more closely aligned with Free-2-Move. Which leads to my next observation, getting involved with "advocacy groups such as Veloz." While I don't know enough about Veloz to say something in particular, usually such advocacy groups operate on the Judas principle. That principle spelled out in John Chapter 12, the more money there is in the benevolent fund the more there is to steal. EV education for the poor and disadvantaged sounds similar to a Babylon Bee article parody. Veloz's devotion to the goal of all vehicles eventually being electric is a cultish belief.

Stellantis, if you want to help the working class accept EVs, sell products such as the upcoming Fiat Panda EV lineup in the USA. People want EVs which are simple and robust. Right now customers are buying the Chevy Bolt like it's going out of style and shunning the Mustang Mock-e like it never was in style.

One last point, no court or legal authority has ever over-ruled the law of unintended consequences or struck down any of the laws of physics.

 

[TripleT]

The future of EV in this mandated area are the $10K city cars from China like the WuLing. Panda is basically a slightly bigger version of the same thing. Aside from abandoning these areas there is not much choice and it is over half the US population. Until the voting public catches on in these State it is not going to change.

I think the EV 4 door charger will do moderately well, the SRT model will be low volume by design.

 

[patfromigh]

The future of EV in this mandated area are the $10K city cars from China like the WuLing. Panda is basically a slightly bigger version of the same thing.

I can't help but wonder if last year's Stellantis buy-in with Leap Motor will contribute anything to the new electrified Panda lineup, which Fiat recently announced. Put something together in Mexico and sell it here.

 

[TripleT]

Why the whole bottom end comes from Asia anyway

 

[TripleT]

Yes these Leapmotor

 

[AlexB]

Yes these Leapmotor

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/chinas-leapmotor-start-production-small-ev-polish-stellantis-plant-2024-03-22/