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Could Dodge’s Next-Gen “eMuscle” Cars Feature An F1-Inspired Pushrod Suspension?

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Could Dodge’s Next-Gen “eMuscle” Cars Feature An F1-Inspired Pushrod Suspension?​

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There are some interesting new findings that could prove to be game-changing for the next generation of Dodge “eMuscle” cars when they arrive in showrooms in 2024. In a recent article, Muscle Cars & Trucks (MC&T) uncovered some recently approved patent designs from the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) for a new F1-inspired pushrod suspension design using horizontal dampers, active control elements, and paired with either traditional coil springs or transverse leaf springs.

 

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I wish I were bright enough to understand these diagrams, but one thing this dull bulb knows, this looks sophisticated, complex and expensive. I also know this level of suspension technology applied to the upcoming Dodges and Chrysler’s would be a total game changer. I can’t believe it can happen at the projected price point for these cars, but Italian engineering has been at the apex of F-1 for decades, they have something to prove, so I will hope it comes to our muscle cars. Never say never, so that light bulb just lit up, why put this out if it were not destined for some Stellantis products. I’d suggest changing the game and winning new fans everywhere.
 

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To me, looks like the rear motor is integrated into the rear diff, and if BEV and ICE are sharing the same platform, my worry for having this pushrod suspension, especially the rear side, is the affect on the rear passengers and trunk space.
 

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How does all of this hold up when exposed to snow and road salt?

Beyond that, I wish I could speak directly to Stellantis management to explain to them just how profoundly uninterested in electric vehicles most people in the U.S. are.
 

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To me, looks like the rear motor is integrated into the rear diff, and if BEV and ICE are sharing the same platform, my worry for having this pushrod suspension, especially the rear side, is the affect on the rear passengers and trunk space.
More than likely this suspension system will be used in high performance models of Dodge, Chrysler, Alfa Romero and Maserati where rear seat and trunk space is not a major concern, but performance is very important. If you need space, buy a mini van.
 
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How does all of this hold up when exposed to snow and road salt?

Beyond that, I wish I could speak directly to Stellantis management to explain to them just how profoundly uninterested in electric vehicles most people in the U.S. are.
One reason why internal combustion engines is going to be a core part of the whole Dodge plan. Let’s not forget those inline sixes on the way for Dodge. Guys like us have to play the cards we are dealt or like me, keep your Hemi for your lifetime, perhaps with a new Challenger too for interest. My plan.
 

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More than likely this suspension system will be used in high performance models of Dodge, Chrysler, Alfa Romero and Maserati where rear seat and trunk space is not a major concern, but performance is very important. If you need space, buy a mini van.
Unless the eMuscle is on a platform on its own, and not sharing the next Challenger's platform, you would lose a useful space in the back seat and trunk to something barely useful like the Camaro.
And one of the reason Challenger is outselling Camaro and Mustang, is the useful space.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but that drawing is the front suspension, unless the vehicle is 4 wheel steering. There is a rack and pinion mounted on that assembly that I see.
 

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When is this ((E muscle)) going to be revealed? any news on the next gen challenger styling?...is it keeping its retro good looks or going modern?
 

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Last time, it was said end of this quarter we can expect an operational concept.
Unless Stellantis didn't miss with the design, the next Challenger was supposed to be a mix of F16 jet plane and Barracuda. Let's just say it's not going to be a retro-modern mess like the Camaro.
 

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Last time, it was said end of this quarter we can expect an operational concept.
Unless Stellantis didn't miss with the design, the next Challenger was supposed to be a mix of F16 jet plane and Barracuda. Let's just say it's not going to be a retro-modern mess like the Camaro.
Please tell me it's not this mess!!!received_1002705343922541.jpeg
 
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That drawing is one of the design practices.
Usually there would be a lot of it.
We might know the direction but not the final design.
 

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Trying to make Vertical height space for batteries... Make sense, a lot of formulas beyond F1 have push style suspensions. It is a proven approach.
 

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That drawing is one of the design practices.
Usually there would be a lot of it.
We might know the direction but not the final design.
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I doubt it'll look like any of those because the camaro drawings looked very similar and the current challenger beats it in sales, no way they shoot themselves in the foot, but I guess we will see. I personally think they should just make it look more like a 70/71 challenger, lower, wider etc which a better platform would allow them to.
 

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