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Considering Dodge has long been known as the muscle car brand I can appreciate how important it is to them to have a muscle car flagship. Traditionally muscle cars are 2 doors coupes.
Although I don’t like EV’s and hope to never be forced to own one, you have so many great facts at why Dodge is doing what there doing. I can’t support sales of only EV cars, but can agree with your thought process on this issue. It does make sense to why.
There was a market in the late 60’s and the early 70’s for both. Not only did the Dodge muscle siblings compete against each other, the had their Mopar cousins at Plymouth to compete with! Can’t see an issue this time if Dodge presents them just right.
Different era, different economy and different buying generation.
Couped Styled Sedans changed the market. Challenger and Charger existed together for a very short time in history. There were still Dodge and Chrysler/Plymouth dealerships back then. Barracuda is a A body until 70. so they were very different vehicles.
Yes, but its a generation that mostly drives around alone and likely doesn't care about the rear doors. More people drive alone now than they did in the 60's and 70's. As long as the Challenger stays distinct enough from the charger it could probably co-exist, but thats if they were both ice powered with updated engines (V8 incl). This shakey leg EV stuff....all bets are off and any coupe they make will have trouble selling, not even mentioning Stellantis absurd pricing strategies.
BOTH models will sink, and it will be the 1975 to 1978 Dodge Charger all over again, if not even worse. No V8 ICE engine under the hood means no sales. Also, offer all of the previous model engine options, including ALL of the V8 models (and, if you want to really go nuts, a V10 option as well), and then add a modern V8 Max Wedge engine to the line up (as that is the actual origin of the revived classic logo of Dodge), and the sales will skyrocket. Also, is it me, or is this new model of the vehicle taking a lot of cues from the 1999 Dodge Charger R/T Concept car?
You talking about fancy....Stellantis is a business.
Puff puff pass. You'll be seeing 1000WHP Chargers by this time next year by guys just upping the boost and tuning. The Banshee wont even matter when its this easy to make the same power with the hurricane, mark my words
Completely different than the '75-'78 era. V8's are COMPLETELY unnecessary minus the sounds they make. While I love the sound of a pushrod V8, Both of the hurricane-6 engines outpower anything that isn't part of the Hellcat family of v8s and they're being put in cars that are designed to out perform what we have now in every single way imaginable. The '70's saw emissions kill performance, not V8s, this era, the V8's are dying but performance is not only surviving but thriving! The standard output Hurricane nearly equals the horsepower of the 6.1L Hemi (420hp in the I-6 vs 425hp in the V8) but with way more torque. The 3.0L high Output Hurricane outpowers the 6.4L in both Horsepower and torque along with producing more power than any of the other naturally aspirated V8s from both Ford and GM. Seeing that the Hurricane-6 is capable of supporting 1,000hp+ (Cat-X), that means that the boost can be turned up to push this powertrain well above hellcat, redeye and jailbreak numbers. Not that they would really need to at this point because even with the Cat-2 version of the Hurricane High output running at 550hp/531tq, adding a hybrid transmission behind it would push it past the 807hp Jailbreak variants at full power. Mopar will go bankrupt with your ideas of V8s, a V10 and some ancient "max wedge" V8. This isn't 1967 anymore. The lack of V8 engines may actually increase sales anyway seeing that GT's & SXTs are really the cars that make up the bulk of the sales anyway because of affordability and fuel economy. While those things may not be what drives most gearheads, it does drive sales, so honestly, having a performance car with more performance that emits less emissions and is all around a better car should by far increase sales and not only that increase profitability because Stellantis wont have to pay fines for not being emissions compliant so in turn, they can make more money. But let's talk power here for a second because that's really what drives the whole muscle car performance car scene. The late '60's and early '70's gave us the 426ci Street hemi rated at 425hp (yeah it was more like 495hp and nearly equal in torque so we will just go with it being a nearly 500hp car), You have the current 392ci V8 which makes 485hp/475lb-ft of torque, and you have the V10 Viper which made around 645hp/600lb-ft of torque. The hurricane Cat-2 puts out 550hp and 531lb-ft of torque which blows away the 7-liter Hemi, the 392, the 6.1L and the 5.7L V8. As I mentioned above throwing a Gen-4 hybrid 8 speed behind that will leave even the mighty viper in the dust and be more practical all the way around. Not to mention the fact that they are moving into another lucrative market, the EV performance market. Let's keep it real here, Most v8's can not compete with an electric performance car when it comes to flat out straight line acceleration, nor can a V10 or V12 on average. EV's offer alot of things that a V8 could never offer including gobs of torque & lower center of gravity which helps with handling, Having the full EV variants (at least the 800V variants) at the top of the list allows a balanced portfolio of power and cost. People complaining about a 2 and 4 door variant of the same car should take a look at the BMW 8-Series which offers a coupe and grand coupe version of the same car. The business model works just fine. This new era promises way more performance and a better business model that will allow the brand to continue offering performance for years to come.
