2022 Ram 2500/3500 Heavy Duty Pickups Are Now Arriving In Dealer Inventories!

2022 Ram 2500/3500 Heavy Duty Pickups Are Now Arriving In Dealer Inventories!​

Let's Dive Into The Big Horn Night Edition For 2022...​

The first batch of 2022 Ram Heavy Duty pickups have begun to arrive in dealer inventories across the country. While most are Tradesman and Big Horn models with only a few options, we can tell RAM is working around the semiconductor shortage by building as many trucks as they can.

2022 Ram 2500/3500 Heavy Duty Pickups Are Now Arriving In Dealer Inventories!

The first batch of 2022 Ram Heavy Duty pickups have begun to arrive in dealer inventories across the country. While most are Tradesman and Big Horn models with only a few options, we can tell RAM is working around the semiconductor shortage by building as many trucks as they can.

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[Mopar392]

When is the next HD update?

 

[redriderbob]

When is the next HD update?

Next year.

 

[Mopar392]

Both Gas and Diesel engines need to be updated.

 

[patfromigh]

Both Gas and Diesel engines need to be updated.

That won't happen until the transmission updates arrive.

 

[Mopar392]

That won't happen until the transmission updates arrive.

The Gas version already has ZF 8HP75 capable of up to 550 foot pounds of torque. The current BGE is rated at 429 foot pounds of torque.

The Diesel, on the other hand, is still with the old AS69RC Aisin transmission. But it can handle up to 1200 lb.ft of torque
It’s rumored to be coupled to ZF new Powerline.

So, there is still margin for upgrades.

 

[patfromigh]

The transmissions in the pipeline allow for electrification. It's not the power capacity of the transmissions in the pipeline, it is adapting the engines to make the most of the capability with the new power train technology. The Cummins ISB uses a totally different state of tune in hybrid power trains. The BGE already has two states of tune depending on the GVW as well as the Cummins diesel. Ironically, the higher GVWs get less power. The odd thing is while Ford, Chevy, and Ram show off their battery electric pickup trucks they are half ton models. The customers demanding alternative power trains are business owners, utilities and fleets who buy the larger GVW trucks.

That said, I really don't know how high of a GV weight class Ram will go when adopting electrification. The 6 speed Aisin is offered in the mix for the higher GVW models with both gas and diesels. I suspect the ZF Power-Line 8-speed will replace the six speed. The old Torqueflite six speed is still around for the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500.

 

[Mopar392]

Now, you are going in a different direction.

Yes, if the plan is to electrify/ hybridize the upcoming Heavy Duty, I doubt the current transmission offerings are capable of that.

And I highly doubt the current eTorque or 4Xe technologies are suitable for Heavy Duty and high GVW trucks.

 

[patfromigh]

The entire industry is going in the direction of electrification. The era of just simply adding horse power and torque to an IC engine is coming to an end. General Motors has committed themselves to "going all in" on battery electric power trains. It will be laughable if the Chevy and GM HD diesel pickups have class leading torque during their few remaining twilight years. Ram can afford to wait it out.

There will not be a hybrid version of the ZF Power-Line to begin with, but the press material does state it is adaptable to the same technology now used in the Wranglers and BMWs. There is some doubt whether the Gen 4 PHEV transmission will be used in heavier vehicles such as a Ram 1500 or Jeep Grand Wagoneer, but the current generation will be adapted for use and live on for hybrid vehicles of that size. P2 mild hybridization is also a possibility in the ZF 8-speeds.

I'm quit sure Stellantis, both globally and locally in Auburn Hills, has all manner of things in the oven. Stellantis in Europe will be marketing an electric van using a hydrogen fuel cell as a range extender by the end of this year. The people in Auburn Hills are privy to the Medium-duty Urban Range Extended Connected Powertrain (MURECP) project for the US Dept. of Energy by Bosch because some FCA parts were used.