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2025 Dodge Charger SIXPACK Four-Door Pilot Production Begins

2025 Dodge Charger SIXPACK Four-Door Pilot Production Begins​

Dodge Accelerates Production of ICE-Powered Chargers with the HURRICANE I6 Engine...​


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The all-new Dodge Charger (LB) has sparked significant controversy, especially as Stellantispivots towards a fully electric vehicle (EV) strategy. Amid ongoing launch issues and resistance from American consumers to EVs, Dodge enthusiasts are eagerly focusing on the upcoming internal combustion engine (ICE) version of the Charger. This version will feature the twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter HURRICANE I6 engine lineup, promising thrilling gasoline performance for the next generation of muscle car fans.

 
Salvation ! If your fair minded, me included, you have to admit two things, the Six Pack Chargers are quite an impressive package and thank our luck stars for the four door sedan Six Pack Charger. Without that model we might be saying a sad goodbye to the Dodge brand. Electric might be interesting, but no game changer.
If Dodge can get the Hornet on track, create an exciting Durango and a hatchback performance coupe off the revised Hornet platform, maybe this dog will hunt.
Everything noted is quite doable, with not a V-8 in sight, but I think that too is quite possible. The saving grace here is that Charger sedan, a fair minded person can not help but be impressed. The sooner the better. Call it what you will, I’ll call it Salvation without it being an exaggeration.
 
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Related but not related, I saw a truckload of Chargers yesterday on I44 between OKC and Tulsa. I don't want electric, but they were an impressive sight!
 
Just a clarification on my comment. I had a Dodge Shadow two door hatch and a turbo four two door hatch Plymouth Sundance and both were some appealing package. The turbo version was a blast too. Affordable, very stylish and that hatchback was a grocery getters solution to almost every need. The shadow was my solution to urban commuting challenges with great gas mileage, very reliable performance, easy parking but spartan rock hard seats and cost cutting interior as a minus. With Fiat input and ergonomics know how ,a similar hatchback and four door sedan hatchback built off the Hornet, in a U.S. factory for sure, could be a game changer. That Hornet has all the mechanics to make this happen for Dodge. That’s my thinking here.
 
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Truthfully, I am more interested in this particular car than any other model the Charger. My hope for this is that Direct Connection will really come through for these car and come out with some decent performance upgrades for this thing along with some styling upgrades as well. Adding another 60hp and 30lb-ft of torque with a tune along with the intake, fuel rails, fuel pump and intercoolers from the HO engine would be a conservative breeze. Add in a Direct Connection catback for a smooth, deep tone and a Super Track pack suspension with the Big brake option and 20x11" wheels and to me that's a perfect Charger. Add a few hood and spoiler options along with graphics, wheel options, an aero package, an LED emblem steering wheel, gauge options ranging from the '66-'67 style gauges all the way up to the Hellcat Challenger style gauges, and a few other things and the new Charger should be pretty cool.
 
piggybacking on Bill Burke's original comment, Dodge absolutely has the potential to make this work and a Hornet/Dart duo on the STLA: Medium platform would absolutely be a stroke of genius along with a STLA trio of the Charger, Durango, US Variant Rampage trio. Stellantis was on to something with the GLH package on the Hornet and I think that the STLA medium platform could really do alot for the Hornet by making it more useable. When you realize the Jeep Trackhawk has an overall length of 192" and the STLA Medium platform can produce a vehicle the same size, Imagining a Trackhawk sized hornet makes a bit of sense, Especially when you pair a 270hp 2.0L Turbo engine with a ZF 9-speed transmission up front with a 214hp EDM at the rear axle giving the Hornet (and a Dart GLH) 484hp and who knows what in torque. Add in a few Direct Connection/GLH upgrades and the STLA Medium platform cars are now desirable. Keep in mind, the STLA Medium platform has a max wheelbase of 114.2" That's roughly equivalent to a Kia Stinger with a max length that's about the same so when u think of the fact that this is a FWD based car, Even with a long-hood/short deck styling, this car would be the American equivalent of an Acura TLX Type-S but with more power. The thing is, I based this number off of the lowest power option of the STLA: Medium's EDM. That Medium platform's EDMs range from 214HP-392HP. That's a total system output of 662hp with the 2.0L Turbo combined. That's genuinely a baby hellcat on the STLA medium platform and a Dart with that kind of power should definitely wear the Dart Demon name. That's just the STLA Medium platform. The STLA Large platform can still hold even more muscle with the Hurricane engines with a nasty trio of the Charger, Durango & Rampage. Now there is the rumor of a small displacement DOHC V8 running around but I'm going to focus on what we actually have right now and that it the Hurricanes and the 880RE Gen-4. We know the current High Output Hurricane 3.0L Twin Turbo I-6 pushes 550hp/531tq with the potential for alot more as shown with the Hurricrate-CatX engine, slated to produce over 1,000hp. We also know that the 880RE ZF 8speed Gen 4 can be configured in a hybrid transmission unit, capable of producing 160Kw of power on its own. That 160Kw roughly translates to 214hp so even without any upgrades, a 3.0L Hurricane H/O hybrid can produce a total system HP output of roughly a hellcat stomping 764hp with AWD. So to have a Charger, Durango and a Rampage trio pushing out anywhere from 420hp up to 550hp and 764hp along with a Dart & Hornet pushing anywhere from 270hp up to 484hp and 662hp, I see no issues with any of this. Especially if Direct Connection offers upgrades for these vehicles.
 
Direct Connection absolutely failed the Hemi, what leads anyone to believe they will offer much for this? The entire DC reboot has been a massive failure.
 
Direct Connection absolutely failed the Hemi, what leads anyone to believe they will offer much for this? The entire DC reboot has been a massive failure.
You are absolute 100 not wrong with your statement. My hope is that if enough people offer suggestions, if the powers that be at Stellantis read it, then maybe, they will consider doing more for the other powertrains and not just the Hellcats or whatever models that they consider as top tier. Poor management at Stellantis is only half of the issue, as we have shown by alot of us voicing our opinions and disdain about the EV variants that were being forced down our throats. But before we going saying that DC has been a failure, lets really look at what was on the table.
It's one thing to say that something failed but it's another to really examine why it failed. DC targeted the Supercharged Hellcat variants because they knew that they could get impressive gains with just bolt ons and a tune. The 392 would have required extensive internal engine work to get anything out of it and the Hemi (while better for upgrading than the 392) needed big dollar items to see any real gains. That's why DC only focused on the Forced induction cars. yeah, alot of aftermarket companies offered things but with DC being backed by Stellantis I don't know what the stipulations were for what they really could offer for much of anything outside of what they offered and still be able to warranty it. These powertrains are a different story because they're all forced induction.
I posted some "numbers" of what a Stage kit could be for the S/O Hurricane could look like, but for a turbo car, those numbers were insanely low. A modest CARB compliant tune by itself on a turbo car and achieve a gain of over 30hp. A Performance package that not only adds a higher flowing intake but also bigger intercoolers, higher flowing injectors, rail and fuel pump along with a tune, upgraded blow off valves, wastegates, etc. can easily give a 45-55hp gain while staying CARB legal. Even if Stellantis wanted to keep a comfortable gap between the performance of the S/O Charger and H/O Charger, there is a 130hp gap between the two cars. It's why I say the V8 is somewhat pointless, other than to give that classic sound.
 
Has anyone even successfully run the DC Stage stuff for Hellcats? Last I knew folks were having all sorts of issues with software, parts were unavailable, or things shipped separately and it was a waiting game.

When you announce factory support, and don’t deliver, that’s a fail. They announced things were in development for 392, never materialized. They got caught in emissions certification hell and frankly all of that should have been done before being announced, and it all came toward the end of production instead of the sweet spot. Oh well I suppose.

I don’t see them doing turbo upgrades. Tuning, maybe but it’ll be inferior to aftermarket tuning anyways. There’s potential in the Hurricane, certainly, but less than Hemi.
 
Has anyone even successfully run the DC Stage stuff for Hellcats? Last I knew folks were having all sorts of issues with software, parts were unavailable, or things shipped separately and it was a waiting game.

When you announce factory support, and don’t deliver, that’s a fail. They announced things were in development for 392, never materialized. They got caught in emissions certification hell and frankly all of that should have been done before being announced, and it all came toward the end of production instead of the sweet spot. Oh well I suppose.

I don’t see them doing turbo upgrades. Tuning, maybe but it’ll be inferior to aftermarket tuning anyways. There’s potential in the Hurricane, certainly, but less than Hemi.

Yes, @MikeV's best friend installed it on his Redeye. Here is the article we did on it...


It's common to see things from Mopar never make it through... Dodge Dart Scat Pack kits, Dodge Hornet GLH stuff, and the 392 HEMI® stage kits are just a few.
 
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