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Chrysler Really Needs A New 300 Based On The New Charger

Chrysler Really Needs A New 300 Based On The New Charger​

After Driving The New Charger Daytona, It Makes Me Really Want A Chrysler Version...​


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Stellantis has made it clear that Chrysler is on the path toward becoming an electrified or fully-electric brand by 2028. However, with the recent departure of former CEO Carlos Tavares and a pivot away from his “Dare Forward 2030” strategic plan, questions linger about the brand’s future direction. While these leadership changes could cause delays or adjustments, the brand’s reinvention may already be taking shape beneath the surface.

 
I agree. The rendering of the 300 is phenomenal. So beautiful, shouts class and luxury! Chrysler needs 3 to 4 vehicles in its stall. The minivan, 300 sedan (in all 3 forms, ICE, Hybrid & EV) and a luxury SUV. As for a 4th vehicle a convertible based on the 2 door Charger or compact SUV).
I really want Chrysler to survive. I remember the old days. The main vehicle was the Chrysler, then a down grated affordable version was the Plymouth, while Dodge was the sport version of the Chrysler. Back then it started at Chrysler worked down from there. Now seems it’s Dodge and Chrysler seems to have to spin off from there. Funny how things change.
 
How about a 300 sedan with suicide doors standard and a base price under $60 grand, a true poor man's Rolls Royce??
Only potential challenge to designing it w/ suicide doors is that you might need a wheelbase stretch over the Charger because the trailing edge of the rear doors would need to be virtually straight to accommodate both an upper and lower hinge (Look at rear doors on current Rolls' and past Lincoln Continentals for reference).
 
I think that Chrysler is going to have a really hard time becoming a high-volume brand again (I would love to be proven wrong, but I just do not see it). They have been out of too many segments for too long, there is no obvious role for Chrysler in most segments (unlike Dodge, Jeep, and Ram), and I think most of their buyers have moved on to other brands.

If they are going to be low-volume and an EV brand, they might as well become a high-margin brand directly competing with vehicles like Tesla and Cadillac's EVs.

Rather than a re-skinned Charger sold as the Chrysler 300, they might be better off producing a new Chrysler Concorde as a Model S competitor, especially if, as has been reported, the styling of future Chrysler vehicles is going to be based on the Halcyon concept.

Instead of the "brute in a suit" upscale muscle car that the 300 has been and would be, the Concorde could focus on minimalist styling, aerodynamics, luxury, minimal NVH, comfort, and cutting-edge technology (like the Concorde jet). And it could still be fast, but more like a Model S Plaid than like a Hellcat.

Leaning into the Concorde being an EV could actually simplify its design. The Concorde could still be based on the Charger Daytona (including the 800-volt drivetrain, eventually) but being an EV only would eliminate the need to accommodate the Hurricane I6. Giving it a low hood and pointy nose like the Halcyon concept would eliminate the need for the R-wing, and reducing NVH would eliminate the need for the Fratzonic chambered exhaust.

This formula could be replicated in other segments, with much of the engineering for Chrysler's low-volume, high-margin vehicles being already done for their higher-volume platform-mates. A Chrysler Airflow D-CUV (Model Y competitor) could be based on the Wagoneer S. A full-size Chrysler Aspen CUV could be based on the upcoming STLA Large Durango/Stealth. A Chrysler Portal C-MPV could be based on the upcoming STLA Medium Compass. The upcoming Pacifica EV could share its body with a new Chrysler Voyager (which would be the exception for the brand's formula, being priced lower and with HEV, PHEV, and/or ICE drivetrains to attempt to retain the brand's current, traditional minivan buyers). All would be EVs (except Voyager) with Halcyon-inspired styling, aerodynamic designs, minimal NVH, and the latest in safety, autonomous driving, AI, and connectivity technology.

In order for this strategy to work, execution would need to be flawless. Styling would need to be jaw-droppingly beautiful, technology would need to be mind-blowing, and quality and reliability would need to be beyond reproach-- a daunting task indeed. Introducing each vehicle after its higher-volume platform-mate would allow Chrysler to have most engineering and production kinks worked out.

Chrysler as a Tesla fighter could potentially find buyers outside of the U.S. and Canada in markets like China and the Middle East and, to a lesser extent, Europe and Australia, making Chrysler more of an international (but still low-volume) brand.

These vehicles would obviously not appeal to traditional Mopar enthusiasts, but targeting a new, smaller, more affluent audience might be less risky than trying to re-enter high-volume segments that have left Chrysler behind. The Mopar faithful would still have Dodge, Jeep, and Ram to provide the kinds of vehicle they are passionate about.
 
Luxury sedans aren't selling and large luxury SUVs are definitely not selling. The Chrysler brand doesn't need to join the other Stellantis products which regularly occupy the monthly slowest sellers list.

How about a 300 sedan with suicide doors standard and a base price under $60 grand, a true poor man's Rolls Royce??
You've just described the Imperial concept from twenty years ago. It's too late now and well past the sell by date. You are right about a poor man's luxury car.

Rather than a re-skinned Charger sold as the Chrysler 300, they might be better off producing a new Chrysler Concorde as a Model S competitor, especially if, as has been reported, the styling of future Chrysler vehicles is going to be based on the Halcyon concept.
The Chrysler brand worked best when it was a discount luxury car. The recently discontinued Chrysler 300C and the Imperial concept previously mentioned were exactly that. The Concord, 300M, and LHS were also successful in that role as well. The way forward for the brand is being a discount version of what's selling now. How does a Chrysler Halcyon become a discounted Tesla model S? Use less batteries. Toyota is showing the way with their Crown Series hybrids. While there isn't a pure battery electric or PHEV Crown available, the power train offerings are plug and play. The Crown Sedan offers a choice of the legacy hybrid system with a lower power e-axle like the new Camry or a Hybrid Max which uses a turbo four cylinder, 6 speed automatic in front with the drive unit from the BZ4X in the rear. The Chinese are using IC engines as generators for extended range EVs as well.

In a market with a 50-50 split between EV mandates or not, Chrysler needs vehicles with plug and play drive modules, fully electric, PHEV, legacy hybrid and mild hybrid. That means giving up some styling aerodynamics to use an IC engines for some versions, but it will allow for a lower entry price.
 
This rendering is really outstanding especially the tradition inspired Chrysler grill that immediately communicates that it is a Chrysler. What really disappointed with the Airflow was the cookie cutter undistinguished front end that evoked little brand identity or styling imagination. Let’s not forget, that in spite of almost any marketing support or substantial interior updating for years, the 300 sedan sold pretty well for most of its run. Imagine how well it might have done with support from the corporate executives. Those doubting its potential in the luxury sedan market should consider these facts and the clear path to success that lies ahead with a luxury product that really, really should look much like this rendering. If the Charger Daytona flops as the reviews everywhere this week sadly predict, the return on investment lies in a Charger based 300 sedan with.a pair of Hurricane engines. An electric 300 need not be offered, please. This is a no brainer which means these guys could blow it. The answer to some of Chryslers woes has just been served up on a silver platter. It’s a gift too good to ignore.
 
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