Stellantis Shifting Durango Production For Alfa Romeo SUV?

Stellantis Shifting Durango Production For Alfa Romeo SUV?​

Alfa Romeo EV SUV To Be Built At JNAP As Durango Moves To Windsor?​

Stellantis is making notable shifts in its production plans, with recent reports highlighting changes for both the Dodge Durango and a new Alfa Romeo electric SUV. While a leaked document from CocheSpias in May states the production of an all-electric Alfa Romeo E-segment SUV (codenamed A6U) at the Jefferson North Assembly Plant (JNAP), the Windsor Starhas reported that the next-generation Dodge Durango (codenamed D6U) will be moving to the Windsor Assembly Plant in Ontario.

Stellantis Shifting Durango Production For Alfa Romeo SUV?

Stellantis is making notable shifts in its production plans, with recent reports highlighting changes for both the Dodge Durango and a new Alfa Romeo electric SUV. While a leaked document from CocheSpias in May states the production of an all-electric Alfa Romeo E-segment SUV (codenamed A6U) at...

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[james.mooney.]

Sounds like a factory readiness issue. The new Durango is starting production in 2025 or 2026, and the Alfa is coming in 2027, the same year as the next Grand Cherokee. Windsor is already set up to build STLA Large vehicles (Charger), while Detroit may need some retooling?

Capacity-wise, the Alfa could likely be produced at either plant, since they are anticipating building only 20k a year once production ramps up in 2028.

 

[InvictaInsignia300]

Stellantis Shifting Durango Production For Alfa Romeo SUV?​

Alfa Romeo EV SUV To Be Built At JNAP As Durango Moves To Windsor?​

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Stellantis is making notable shifts in its production plans, with recent reports highlighting changes for both the Dodge Durango and a new Alfa Romeo electric SUV. While a leaked document from CocheSpias in May states the production of an all-electric Alfa Romeo E-segment SUV (codenamed A6U) at the Jefferson North Assembly Plant (JNAP), the Windsor Starhas reported that the next-generation Dodge Durango (codenamed D6U) will be moving to the Windsor Assembly Plant in Ontario.

Stellantis Shifting Durango Production For Alfa Romeo SUV?

Stellantis is making notable shifts in its production plans, with recent reports highlighting changes for both the Dodge Durango and a new Alfa Romeo electric SUV. While a leaked document from CocheSpias in May states the production of an all-electric Alfa Romeo E-segment SUV (codenamed A6U) at...

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Currently Durango may be older yet sells about the same as GM's hyped Blazer which is amazing. Makes me wonder how long current Durango could keep going? Dodge buyers don't seem enamoured by new platforms or care about how long it's been since latest refresh. Durango is a classic design borrowed from Magnum. Hoping Stellantis maintains the basics and simply evolves the concept.

 

[vbondjr1]

Well that fancy quad exhaust definitely means the Alfa Romeo SUV wouldn't be an EV, that's for sure. The more I think of it though, If the other Stellantis brands had a larger presence over here, would it be enough to balance out the carbon footprint for them to continue producing our beloved Mopar brands in a way that would please the current customer base (with hurricane engines, not v8s). Take Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Maserati for instance, Fiat and Alfa are known for small engines and things like that. Use them in the North American Market to do battle with the Japanese and Korea vehicles and the onslaught of the electric market. I see no reason why a good 85% of those vehicles can't be put on the STLA Medium platform with hybrid powertrains with Hurricane-4 engines up front with the E-DCT gearbox driving the from wheels and a powerful STLA Medium EDM powering the rear wheels, taking on cars like the Civic Type R, Integra Type S, TLX Type S, MDX Type S, Elantra N, Toyota's entire GR lineup and sold as Fiat Abarth cars. Do the same with Alfa Romeo & Maserati and make some Quadrifoglio & Trofeo vehicles to battle it out with the 4-series and smaller BMW M cars and some of the AMG Mercedes vehicles. All of it would be electrified because they would have the EDMs in the back and the hybrid E-DCT gearboxes up front but they'd also have the 2.0L Hurricane-4 Turbo as well. Let those cars flood the market and displace Toyota, Honda and Nissan, let the Chrysler brand do all of the full BEV models, let Jeep be an off road brand again, Ram will always be Ram and let Dodge rule the roads again with Hurricane-6 powertrains with massive amounts of horsepower and torque! Maybe even bring back the cubic inch displacement of the Australian Hemi-6 engines in 3.5L, 4.0L & 4.3L with Hurricane twin turbo technology and performance and a hybrid 8-speed Gen-4. Let the Mopar brands be exclusively run on the STLA Large and STLA frame platforms. Heck, let Chrysler be all electric and come out with decent cars, we may even see the end of Tesla, which would be amazing!

 

[bill burke]

To be successful a global automobile company has to be global. Alfa Romeo is losing its pure Italian status just as Jeep is losing its pure American status. What will remain for any Stellantis brand is unique styling imagery that will be based around historic design elements that could be done in the native countries but built elsewhere in the most cost effective way, with each site replicating the manufacturing system and process. You will have multiple brands sharing the same factory and only one brand would be domestic, maybe none. You could have Jeeps, Fiats, Peugeot’s and Alfa Romeos all built in the same factory, sharing a common architecture that focuses on a market that targets the same customer base generally, but a different brand identity to match the.targeted market. A kind of slight of hand to maximize build quality and profits. Look for your next Jeep to be built in Poland sitting next to one built in Toledo Ohio that all have the iconic Jeep seven slot grill and the buyer sees a Jeep in both, superficially an “.All-American” Icon that few will dig any deeper into its origin. Now you see it, now you don’t ! It’s magic!! Welcome to the 21st century folks.

 

[bill burke]

Well that fancy quad exhaust definitely means the Alfa Romeo SUV wouldn't be an EV, that's for sure. The more I think of it though, If the other Stellantis brands had a larger presence over here, would it be enough to balance out the carbon footprint for them to continue producing our beloved Mopar brands in a way that would please the current customer base (with hurricane engines, not v8s). Take Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Maserati for instance, Fiat and Alfa are known for small engines and things like that. Use them in the North American Market to do battle with the Japanese and Korea vehicles and the onslaught of the electric market. I see no reason why a good 85% of those vehicles can't be put on the STLA Medium platform with hybrid powertrains with Hurricane-4 engines up front with the E-DCT gearbox driving the from wheels and a powerful STLA Medium EDM powering the rear wheels, taking on cars like the Civic Type R, Integra Type S, TLX Type S, MDX Type S, Elantra N, Toyota's entire GR lineup and sold as Fiat Abarth cars. Do the same with Alfa Romeo & Maserati and make some Quadrifoglio & Trofeo vehicles to battle it out with the 4-series and smaller BMW M cars and some of the AMG Mercedes vehicles. All of it would be electrified because they would have the EDMs in the back and the hybrid E-DCT gearboxes up front but they'd also have the 2.0L Hurricane-4 Turbo as well. Let those cars flood the market and displace Toyota, Honda and Nissan, let the Chrysler brand do all of the full BEV models, let Jeep be an off road brand again, Ram will always be Ram and let Dodge rule the roads again with Hurricane-6 powertrains with massive amounts of horsepower and torque! Maybe even bring back the cubic inch displacement of the Australian Hemi-6 engines in 3.5L, 4.0L & 4.3L with Hurricane twin turbo technology and performance and a hybrid 8-speed Gen-4. Let the Mopar brands be exclusively run on the STLA Large and STLA frame platforms. Heck, let Chrysler be all electric and come out with decent cars, we may even see the end of Tesla, which would be amazing!

Of all the traditional domestic Mopar brands, Chrysler might be the only one that could be successful as an all electric marquee. Chrysler, let’s face it, is essentially gone, but the image of Chrysler’s past still endures. Why not be a direct Tesla competitor, why not reinvent itself that way since little else is left besides its image to clutter up the brands portfolio and its defined market target on the showroom floor. It’s smart and really intelligent for all the other brands to make room in its brand composition, essentially and necessarily an ICE dominated brand for an electric model. But Chrysler, the new Chrysler, can be redefined and really, really, go after Tesla. That how I would approach it.

 

[MoparRay]

Of all the traditional domestic Mopar brands, Chrysler might be the only one that could be successful as an all electric marquee. Chrysler, let’s face it, is essentially gone, but the image of Chrysler’s past still endures. Why not be a direct Tesla competitor, why not reinvent itself that way since little else is left besides its image to clutter up the brands portfolio and its defined market target on the showroom floor. It’s smart and really intelligent for all the other brands to make room in its brand composition, essentially and necessarily an ICE dominated brand for an electric model. But Chrysler, the new Chrysler, can be redefined and really, really, go after Tesla. That how I would approach it.

Bill, Chrysler as electric only would never sale enough vehicles to justify keeping the brand alive. Chrysler should be the opposite V6 & V8 models. Their line up should mimic Lexus, but only low volume 2dr. coupe and convertible model and a few SUVs with the best quality and features.

 

[TripleT]

Lexus is Tri-power.... There is little to no ROI for Chrysler retro models and will like Toyota move HEV focus outside the Ftype models.

Chrysler should NOT be exclusively EV, but also HEV. Catch Up the KEY Chrysler demo wouldn't even pay for Hemi models over the ancient Pentastar.

Lexus is more inline with Dodge than Chrysler. Any other idea is fanboi fan fiction, Chrysler need a new focus and a demographic that is deeper than a single new car purchase before leaving the market altogether,

So this is an Alfa Romeo Thread? .... Right?

Will really be interesting to see how a USA made model will fare in Italy, they are very Nationalistic, Seems like a better manufacturing location would be alongside the Maserati. But good on Michigan for the high margin model.

I do see a shift to HEV for AR also as they traditionally have been powertrain focused not appliance focused say like Fiat.

 

[redriderbob]

Well that fancy quad exhaust definitely means the Alfa Romeo SUV wouldn't be an EV, that's for sure. The more I think of it though, If the other Stellantis brands had a larger presence over here, would it be enough to balance out the carbon footprint for them to continue producing our beloved Mopar brands in a way that would please the current customer base (with hurricane engines, not v8s). Take Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Maserati for instance, Fiat and Alfa are known for small engines and things like that. Use them in the North American Market to do battle with the Japanese and Korea vehicles and the onslaught of the electric market. I see no reason why a good 85% of those vehicles can't be put on the STLA Medium platform with hybrid powertrains with Hurricane-4 engines up front with the E-DCT gearbox driving the from wheels and a powerful STLA Medium EDM powering the rear wheels, taking on cars like the Civic Type R, Integra Type S, TLX Type S, MDX Type S, Elantra N, Toyota's entire GR lineup and sold as Fiat Abarth cars. Do the same with Alfa Romeo & Maserati and make some Quadrifoglio & Trofeo vehicles to battle it out with the 4-series and smaller BMW M cars and some of the AMG Mercedes vehicles. All of it would be electrified because they would have the EDMs in the back and the hybrid E-DCT gearboxes up front but they'd also have the 2.0L Hurricane-4 Turbo as well. Let those cars flood the market and displace Toyota, Honda and Nissan, let the Chrysler brand do all of the full BEV models, let Jeep be an off road brand again, Ram will always be Ram and let Dodge rule the roads again with Hurricane-6 powertrains with massive amounts of horsepower and torque! Maybe even bring back the cubic inch displacement of the Australian Hemi-6 engines in 3.5L, 4.0L & 4.3L with Hurricane twin turbo technology and performance and a hybrid 8-speed Gen-4. Let the Mopar brands be exclusively run on the STLA Large and STLA frame platforms. Heck, let Chrysler be all electric and come out with decent cars, we may even see the end of Tesla, which would be amazing!

Its just a rendering. all Alfas will be EVs.

 

[TripleT]

Its just a rendering. all Alfas will be EVs.

The Italians a starting to push back on this also, So I imagine HEV will be quickly in the cards.

 

[redriderbob]

The Italians a starting to push back on this also, So I imagine HEV will be quickly in the cards.

Stellantis has yet to officially announce any change for the U.S. and Canadian markets, despite the push back here.

 

[Mike201]

Bob, I don’t know if you can update the story. It is 17 September and I saw a new posting online regarding this. It says the new Durango will officially be called the stealth and it will be smaller than the current Durango. It will only be a five passenger SUV. Do you have any information whether this is true or not? And if so, can you update this article or repost a new article.

 

[redriderbob]

UAW Challenges Stellantis Over Potential Durango Production Shift to Canada​

Union Alleges Contract Violation In Dodge Durango Move...​

The United Auto Workers (UAW) union is voicing concerns over what it claims are Stellantis’ efforts to shift Dodge Durango production out of Detroit and into Windsor, Ontario, Canada. According to the union, local chapters representing thousands of UAW members have filed contract grievances, alleging that this move would violate the terms of their current contract with Stellantis.

UAW Challenges Stellantis Over Potential Durango Production Shift to Canada

The United Auto Workers (UAW) union is voicing concerns over what it claims are Stellantis' efforts to shift Dodge Durango production out of Detroit and into Windsor, Ontario, Canada. According to the union, local chapters representing thousands of UAW members have filed contract grievances...

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[redriderbob]

UAW Considers Strike Vote Against Stellantis Over Contract Dispute​

UAW Plans Strike Vote, Citing Stellantis Contract Violations...​

The United Auto Workers (UAW) union, led by President Shawn Fain, announced plans to hold strike authorization votes against Stellantis due to the automaker allegedly failing to uphold certain promises made in the 2023 UAW Collective Bargaining Agreement. The announcement comes just months after the conclusion of a six-week strike that secured new agreements with Stellantis, General Motors (GM), and Ford.

UAW Considers Strike Vote Against Stellantis Over Contract Dispute

The United Auto Workers (UAW) union, led by President Shawn Fain, announced plans to hold strike authorization votes against Stellantis due to the automaker allegedly failing to uphold certain promises made in the 2023 UAW Collective Bargaining Agreement. The announcement comes just months after...

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[redriderbob]

 

[vbondjr1]

Of all the traditional domestic Mopar brands, Chrysler might be the only one that could be successful as an all electric marquee. Chrysler, let’s face it, is essentially gone, but the image of Chrysler’s past still endures. Why not be a direct Tesla competitor, why not reinvent itself that way since little else is left besides its image to clutter up the brands portfolio and its defined market target on the showroom floor. It’s smart and really intelligent for all the other brands to make room in its brand composition, essentially and necessarily an ICE dominated brand for an electric model. But Chrysler, the new Chrysler, can be redefined and really, really, go after Tesla. That how I would approach it.

I agree, It's something that I've mentioned before on repurposing the brands. Dodge would remain muscle albeit without the V8 engines, Chrysler would go electric and return back to being a luxury brand, jeep would go back to being an all-terrain brand and Ram would be Ram.

 

[redriderbob]

 

[redriderbob]

Stellantis Counters UAW’s Strike Threat, Cites Market Challenges​

COO Carlos Zarlenga Defends Stellantis' Commitment To The 2023 Agreement Amidst Union Criticism...​

Stellantis has issued a response to United Auto Workers (UAW) President Shawn Fain following remarks made during a recent Facebook livestream. In an e-mail addressed to Fain, Stellantis North America COO Carlos Zarlenga outlined the company’s position, defending its compliance with the 2023 Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) and addressing the potential for a strike.

Stellantis Counters UAW’s Strike Threat, Cites Market Challenges

Stellantis has issued a response to United Auto Workers (UAW) President Shawn Fain following remarks made during a recent Facebook livestream. In an e-mail addressed to Fain, Stellantis North America COO Carlos Zarlenga outlined the company’s position, defending its compliance with the 2023...

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[UN4GTBL]

"Market Challenges" = the brutal overpricing of vehicles by greedy companies

 

[TripleT]

"Market Challenges" = the brutal overpricing of vehicles by greedy companies

Yeah, the cost structure has remained static, pure greed. The companies should be run as a Charity or Nationalized.