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The 2005+ Dakota was classic dumbler garbage, so nobody bought it, and they gave the market to the Tacoma

Woof. On the plus side, it makes those angry Jeep grilles look less tacky?

I felt that my KL was a good value compared to a WK2 when I ordered it in 2018. A comparable Compass is now $3,000 more than my KL. Potential KM pricing scares me.

If I was to buy a Toyota to replace our 4th gen Prius, that Corolla Cross Hybrid would probably be the only one I would look at seriously. The new Prius is too small now, the Rav4 hybrid is impossible to get and too "big" for my wife. I'm not convinced that the Toyota dealership experience is...

The never buy a first year car isn't a Chrysler specific thing thought, let's be honest. But, ask me how my 2007 Caliber (new vehicle, built November 2006) was...LOL 25+ warranty service visits in the first 5 years My parents 2011 Caravan (refreshed vehicle, built June 2011) had some teething...

My exact thought as well. Why aren't the media fleet cars kept up to date for these "known issues?"

Issues are with the car, not the publication

It feels much smaller than those vehicles, so it's more of a hot hatch. A Golf R or Civic Type R are $50k, so those are more the competition-ish to me Hornet GT is $40k Hornet GT Plus is $46k

A PHEV Recon would be interesting to me

It already has

Prices go up, sales go down I'm seeing 0% rates advertised again, hopefully they figure out that their pricing is out of line?

The pricing here is just out of this world. The MSRP on my February 2018 ordered 2019 Trailhawk Elite was $50,400 less my discounts and before and it was ordered during a 48 month 0% financing program. A 2023 Cherokee Trailhawk Elite with similar options is now $58,500 + tax at 4.49% for 48...

2008-2012 Caravans suffered from small brakes too, finally fixed in 2013ish

I'm seeing 0% interest ads again here for Jeep... Having said that, the 2023 MSRP jump for the WL TH is wild

I wish these had been the first images I had seen of the Hornet, as it looks so much better at this angle. And the paint colour doesn't hurt ;)

2012-2013 were peak Journeys IMO. They were ok. Not a luxury high quality vehicle for sure, but a good 5 passenger appliance with some Dodge looks. Probably should have been a Chrysler badged vehicle TBH. Prior to the refresh in 2011, it stunk of dumbler cheapness After 2013, the market severely...

Prius-shmius That's really good! What's the temperature been like where you are? I've heard the JL 4xe forces the gas engine when it's colder out, so just curious how that will work out?

Ooof.

Aw shucks, little old me? :D I understand that fully. I was hoping that the Hornet would be a vehicle that I could use to replace our Prius eventually without too bad of a MPG hit, but I'm not convinced yet. I'll go back to waiting for a Compass 4xe I think.

One of us recently rubbed the bumper of the Prius into an ice pile and did a little damage to the lower left corner of the bumper, so I hear you on that. Realistically its just an excuse for me to get the bumper repainted because it currently has a bad repaint job that I don't care for :rolleyes: