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Ram started using a catchy phrase ""I hear the storm is coming,". Problem is Hurricane is marketed differently with each brand. SST, HO/SO or SixPack. But I agree with having a catchy logo

You know that's going to piss a lot of people off.

Because Ram's I6 Cummins proved over the years, that it can hold or better than the competitors' V8s. At this point, Hurricane I6 is promising on paper, but it needs time to prove itself against GM's and Ford's V8 in term of durability and tuning potential for further performance.

I hear you, but the management isn't interested in spending R&D money. At least, not the current one. Remember, there was a rumor about HEMI update with 7.0l and I would be interested to see how much HP/TQ, MPG and emissions this engine would have made vs the HO Hurricane.

How??

I can’t remember, but aren’t GKN or ZF e-axles already in production??

Dodge, Jeep, Ram and Chrysler would need to sell both EV and ICE, if they want to succeed on the long term. We have seen the governments pushing hard on EV just to back track when they realized the technology, infrastructure and people are not ready. ICE technology is much matured and it keep...

That platform and ICE engines choices are totally inferior to SCCS/SWUS platform and GSE engine family. One is made with cost reduction in mind, while the other is to excel. Guess which one Stellantis is widely adopting?

I agree with you, especially that there was the rumored 7.0l HEMI. But, I’m keeping my faith in the Hurricane. But I won’t purchase one yet until another couple of years. By that time, we might either see a more powerful version than a 550hp and how the aftermarket is supporting this platform...

Wasn’t this new platform Charger supposed to come out in 2020, then kept being delayed for various reasons?

We have waited since 2020 to get the updated Charger, what another model year or two of waiting is going to harm? If your mind is set on the gas powered Charger, then it is a good idea to wait for Dodge to iron the issues that usually plague them in the first 2 years of production.

True, but was funded under Diamler, which come to think about had better platforms and technology to share than the poor PSA

He’s contradicting himself. We see brands trying or planning to fully transition to EV only. Fiat, Maserati, Alfa, Chrysler even some models like Wrangler.

@TripleT Do you see Dodge dropping HEMI in the new Charger in 2025? It appears they have overstocked 5.7 and Hellcat.

And you forgot that the Germans were the Nazis

And your point is?? Gen-3 HEMI was brought back by the Germans.

An update HEMI, which was the rumor, would meet the current 1-2mpg improvement shown by the Hurricanes. But the Hurricanes would still be better in emissions, which is the point people keep ignoring and the Gov is going after. Also the power and torque curves on Turbocharged engines are usually...

I’d also choose Tonale over Hornet, if I was shopping, and the one engine that would make interested is a PHEV 2.0l

But did Stellantis make it to a double digit last fiscal year??

Or have a good bodyshop to punch it in.