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That has nothing - zero- to do with my comment. So what point are you making? We all understand they labeled it as grand caravan to take it down market. Just like they did with Voyager. And in the process the public is confused and the brand is watered down and made to have no recognition or...

No I don’t live in Canada.

Right. Exactly. You have reinforced the point I made and I appreciate it. As I said, this has gone on for decades. As you point out , it started with Eaton . There is no surprise.

I’m reminded what a bunch of dingalings we’ve had dreaming up the marketing at Daimler/Fiat/stale antis for decades now. Who in their right mind cancels a model that has sold millions and remained a top seller until the day it was dropped, then renames it by another brand and expects anyone to...

Yes. Definitely don’t need the next Chrysler to be a cheap Fiat. That has disaster written all over it.

You are spot on. I see it daily in my job in the heavy equipment industry. And no one really understands what is under way with, dare I say it, fossil fuels. Prices are about to go off the charts. Already are actually. Hold on to your wallets. About to get interesting.

If the roads around my part of the world are any indication, Kia is mopping the floor with Chrysler in the minivan market. This new Carnival is everywhere I look. And I see Zero, zero new Pacificas out and about. What a shame . But not surprising . Don’t worry though , right? Those growing...

Fastest turning packages? This car has never met sales expectations and can’t muster 1,000 units a month in sales. It’s a drag on the bottom line. Do the same thing we do with Chrysler models. Kill it, and concentrate the investment on the volume brands .

I’ll make a prediction that we see this worldwide fascination with the two box suv bars of soap begin to wane soon. Good gosh , can they make these things any more generically interchangeable and boring? This could be anything, Kia Hyundai, Honda, Mitsubishi, Whatever.Just please don’t make it a...

Awesome! Beautiful car

Here’s my list from the flowery amen corner. All early years30’s- 40’s Imperial. Any New Yorker, Imperial or 300 from the 50’s. Any late 60’s through 72 Imperial. These were some of the finest cars on the road when Fiat was building tricycles or something like that . Cordoba. It might not be...

Well said, thank you for your post. You are spot on the current situation I believe.

Yeah that Lee. Knew nothing about marketing or running a company. That’s for sure!

I believe the limiting factor for EV saturation in the market is going to be charging infrastructure instead of anything to do with manufacturing. We are not ready to charge millions of electric cars going up and down the highway. The pieces necessary to make that happen would have had to been...

It was a joke. Said in gest. Thanks for educating me though . You are always extremely helpful.

So this guy is taking a formula that has been successful beyond anyone’s wildest dreams and tinkering with it. Maybe they have a good opening at GM for him. He would fit in well there .

Yes a comment on the Jeep. Another SUV. Yawn

So let me get this straight . You are proposing that moving forward Stellantis will nix anything below a $50,000 average transaction to be built in North America. LOL. Let me know if that transpires, and if so how it pans out. Keep me posted. Lol

? Whatever

But will have no hope of meeting your stated measure of success of 50000 units a year at $50000. So must be delusional.