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"Well... First of all we should see prediction and sales numbers by engine, cabin type, and so on and on. By FoMoCo, GM and Stellantis. Then we may draw some conclusion." Just look at all of General Motors profit - it all comes from V8s. Seriously, it's not that hard. The lions share of the...

Escalade, Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon, Corvette, and pickup trucks make all the profit at General Motors, so I have to disagree with your assessment. V8s are literally Atlas, holding up the weight of world that come with EV delusions.

Behold the power of maintaining an updated V8 engine - https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GM/

100%.

Funny, Ford Commercial is making money hand over fist.

The next Charger & Challenged inline 6 ICE + EV sales won’t even come to 75% of peak model year V8 Charger + Challenger sales. You have rocks for brains.

Correct.

Enough to make the program a profit, sit down and take some notes.

Everything was in expansion mode under Sergio, no matter what sort of delusion / BS Erik and Dave at Allpar try to spin. Compare that to this idiot in Paris we have now -...

Giving up that V6 and V8 segment because of the EPA - I'm sure that will work for STLA. Yep, go for it guys. Electrifying more of powertrain so those engines can continue? Nah. Let's go with small displacement engines and EVs and styling where you can't even discern the damn thing is a Jeep or a...

GM within $5 billion of STLA market capitalization. $50 to $55 Billion. Where are the Europeans of this forum at?

Big words before recording a single sale.

"Seeing the reviews of the Hurricane by RacerX, Saabkyle and Ben Hardy I think we'll be very happy with the Sixpack cars performance wise if they are reliable." Inflencer psy-op nonsense. No one is going to buy this trash

GM will pass STLA in market cap by the end of this year. Wasn't too long ago that GM's market cap was in the 40s. STLA was in the 70s. Now STLA is 62B and GM is 56B. Read it and weep, losers.

GM is stealing STLA market share and profits.

There's a difference between that and what they're doing with the EV Charger

That is a planted / staged leak by the way. And yes, the car does have a speaker that puts out rev sounds. If you have to fake something in a consumer product, it's not going to be well received. Ask any industrial designer.

The Recon and Wagoneer S and guaranteed flops. There's no business case for a $70K D-segment SUV. Styling the on the Recon is ugly. Now if you did an Grand Cherokee L E-segment series hybrid SUV - now we're talking. I have heard whispers that Ford is going series hybrid with the next Explorer...

The only people that are missing are the people defending the current leadership and decisions / product that have been made since about 2021. It's been an absolute disaster. The Tonale / Hornet have been a failure. Mandating an I6 instead of the 6.4L in the Wagoneer has been a failure. Not...