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Dodge sales were down 20K units on the quarter, because existing Charger/Challenger inventory is dwindling. That's a good chunk of the 12% decline.
Renegade discontinuation and Wagoneer decline also played a big part.
From a volume standpoint when you factor in the discontinuation of the old...
Tell me - other than Wagoneer (which is close to breaking even), what vehicle program incurred losses?
Because it sure as hell wasn't the Charger, Challenger, Grand Cherokee, Wrangler, Gladiator, Durango, or Ram 1500 during their V6 and V8 powertrain years.
There are only 702 old L-platform 2023 SXT Chargers (in new condition) available nationwide at this time - 2023 Charger SXT Nationwide
Thanks for playing, lol - come on man, try harder.
At what point did FCA or Stellantis make money on "affordable, high value cars that meet the needs of everyday consumers for economy, durability and reliability at a price they can afford.", that weren't Wranglers/Gladiators, Grand Cherokees, Durangos, or Ram 1500s?
Seriously - tell me, what...
Billions of EV losses don't portend a viable business model. Tell me which powertrains / vehicles are subsequently viable in a future Stellantis portfolio.
Here's mine -
Jeep
Wrangler / Gladiator - Custom STLA Frame - V8, V6 MHEV, PHEV, REEV / Toledo
Grand Cherokee Five and Seven Passenger -...
Because the dealers know they have a captive audience - they aren't making V8s anymore, and they subsequently price them as an 'limited edition' item. Once they're gone, they're gone. And when they come back, they'll be more expensive than what they are now because the Hemi is made in Mexico...
When there’s a Republican president again in 2028, EVs will finally die - thankfully.
Because there is no plausible scenario in which anyone is making money selling EVs in the US, except for Tesla, because there is no way to make money with a powertrain whose cost is an order of magnitude...
They can easily build V6 MHEVs, V8, four cylinders, whatever they want without repercussions - today. Because that’s what we voted for. Remember though - there is no free lunch with electrification.
The money makers in the modern era (2010-2020) have all had V6-V8s.
The CX-50 offers an interesting demonstration on what's possible for a Mild Hybrid - https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-mazda-cx-50-hybrid-first-test-review/
But to your point - no one is really taking a stab at Mild Hybrids in E-segment Unibody SUVS, yet. GM's trio (Acadia, Enclave...
You know who brought you $40K+ four bangers, and $60K+ V6s and V8s? Not Trump.
So if you want V6s and V8s, vote Republican in 2026/2028, because your preference in powertrains depends on it. I could care less what Stellantis does or doesn't sell to Europe and Canada.
An American-centric...
Also, there is no such thing as a global vehicle / global automaker insofar the Compass is the only global vehicle and manufacturing is done on two different continents. The success of that vehicle in each region is self-contained - the Compass in the US does ok, but not great, compared to its...
Ford sold 35,000 MachE's (manufactured in Mexico) in Europe...for all 2024 - Electric Vehicle registrations in Europe: 15 countries, majority of BEV market.
They sold 55K MachE's in the US in 2024.
There is no existing success story for a Big 3 OEM shipping to the EU and having commercial...
Model by Model -
Ram HD - was never really a strong seller compared to Ford HD and GM HD trucks. The only of the Big 3 to build their HD truck in Mexico. Bring to the HD trucks home to Belvidere!!!!
Next generation Compass - profit negligible, Brampton will essentially be put on ice. No...
The 2026 Grand Cherokee / Wrangler / Gladiator 4xE upgrade with the new transmission is interesting (2026 Jeep® Wrangler and Gladiator 4xe Models Will Get This...), but they'll charge a mint for it. $60K+ minimum
Same with the Ramcharger. It will be expensive.
So tell me again how...
A BEV and a 1.6L MHEV. I'm sure it will sell like hotcakes....
Just cancel this already and write it off.
You're either a tech bro that has bought into a Tesla or a Boomer with more money than sense if you buy an EV. Tesla has a lock on the coastal tech bro market and GM and Kia are picking up...
Well, that's why they won't be cross shopped. They think that anyone that eliminates that 1.6L MHEV from buying consideration should just move up to a ICE GME-T4 EVO in the 2026 Grand Cherokee.
They're wrong - the vast majority existing CDJR buyers want neither of these powertrains. Like I said...
I am really hoping they can at least continue using the Pentastar in the 2026 Grand Cherokee on certain trims, Limited and up. Going to a GME-T4 is a colossal mistake.
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