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  1. JOJO_123_321

    Prominent Italians Are Criticizing Stellantis' Direction

    I guess someone needs to say it. Fiats are only good if you plan to buy it cheap and run it into the ground. And that's their real problem. To be more specific, the physical quality/durability of the supplier components is inconsistent at best. And unless you plan to drive to genuinely drive...
  2. JOJO_123_321

    Prominent Italians Are Criticizing Stellantis' Direction

    so you're basically blaming "diversity hiring" for Stellantis shifting production to Poland and Serbia? ... Pretty sure it was more about avoiding unions and costs. There's nothing remotely new about businesses putting shareholders before workers - and you can't try to reframe this reality...
  3. JOJO_123_321

    Alfa Romeo Confirms The Launch Of A New Supercar In August!

    What are you taking about as "empirical data"? Please tell me you're not still talking about JD power INITIAL quality awards
  4. JOJO_123_321

    Alfa Romeo Confirms The Launch Of A New Supercar In August!

    I'm coming from several years of dealership experience. JD power is not a good measurement. Most companies can build a car with limited problems in the first 90 days and that's all JD power looks at. Unfortunately, in the real world, the issues start popping up after 90 days and on most fiat...
  5. JOJO_123_321

    Alfa Romeo Confirms The Launch Of A New Supercar In August!

    You're kind of all over the place there. Talk to me about Giulia's "reliability". Talk to me about how Dodge and Ram have high rankings in their segment for dependability while Jeep is drowning under the weight of the fiat platforms (Cherokee, renegade, compass) and all their gremlins and...
  6. JOJO_123_321

    Meet The All-New, All-Electric Fiat 600e Subcompact

    Why does it look like the lady M&M ?
  7. JOJO_123_321

    Alfa Romeo Confirms The Launch Of A New Supercar In August!

    Hate to ruin the party, but it's almost definitely going to be a failed, overweight electric second-coming off the 4C. Probably using a French platform (or one of the new stellantis platforms) and will be overpriced for what you're getting -- and will never be light enough to handle like an Alfa...
  8. JOJO_123_321

    Alfa Romeo Confirms The Launch Of A New Supercar In August!

    OMG... Can we just NOT? Don't get me wrong. I love what Alfa Romeo used to be. But they seriously haven't had a car worth talking about since the 159 and the Brera. The Giulia was a massive waste of money, along with the Stelvio and even the 4C. Each one of those would have been a neat...
  9. JOJO_123_321

    Dodge Teases Next Generation Of eMuscle Cars During EV Day 2021 Presentation:

    The light up grill screams 1968-1970 charger. There were rumors of a Baracuda return as well but the word "Charger" is so ripe for wordplay with electricity that it seems to be a given that this would be the 2024 Charger and that the challenger will appear after. I for one hope it looks more...
  10. JOJO_123_321

    Jeep® Gives Us A Quick Peek At The All-New Grand Cherokee Summit 4xe!

    the article says "the first of a trio of new models of the new fifth-generation Grand Cherokee (WL)" ...Obviously the 3 row WL75 is the first, and the WL74 is the second, but what is the "third" version??
  11. JOJO_123_321

    Jeep® Gives Us A Quick Peek At The All-New Grand Cherokee Summit 4xe!

    So far the color options are extremely limited and will likely stay that way until the 2023 models start rolling out. Pretty much the standard Black, white, silver, gray, I wanna say a blue possibly, and the classic 90s Chrysler shade of rust red with a gloss coat finish. The 2 tone is an...
  12. JOJO_123_321

    Ralph Gilles Gives Us A Sneak Peek At The Chrysler Airflow Vision:

    Does anyone else remember the Chrysler corporation concept cars of the 90s? Viper, Portofino, Phaeton, Intrepid ESX (version 1 2 and 3) Chrysler Java, Pronto, Plymouth prowler, Eagle Vision, The original neon and Chrysler cirrus concept, Chrysler Atlantic, Dodge copperhead, Chrysler Chronos...
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