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Dodge or Chrysler Needs a Smaller Four-Door Sedan

Dodge or Chrysler Needs a Smaller Four-Door Sedan​

The Time is Now for A Smaller RWD-Based Sedan...​


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For years, Dodge and Chrysler have been known for their big, bold sedans. The last-generation Dodge Charger was often criticized for its massive size, yet the all-new, all-electric 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona is even bigger. While muscle car enthusiasts love the commanding presence, there’s a growing demand for a smaller, sportier four-door sedan—one that could bring performance and practicality together in a more compact package.

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Dodge or Chrysler Needs a Smaller Four-Door Sedan

For years, Dodge and Chrysler have been known for their big, bold sedans. The last-generation Dodge Charger was often criticized for its massive size, yet the all-new, all-electric 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona is even bigger. While muscle car enthusiasts love the commanding presence, there's a...
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Chrysler needs anything, something, please.... But they really need a luxury SUV that is of astonishing quality if they want to be taken seriously again. Mediocre isn't going to cut it anymore. I thought the Airflow was a step in the right direction but I'm not sure what happened with that. People aren't buying cars these days. They are buying crossovers and SUV's. And people want luxury. The new Ram 1500 Tungsten is proof that Stellantis can do it. That is, make a real luxury vehicle of quality. And I'm not saying that they need something as large as the Ram or the Grand Wagoneer either. It needs to be unique, solid and not over-priced. I would hope that they already have something in the pipeline but you never know. I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football why Lucy pulls it away at the last second. Someone mentioned it on here before, I like the idea of it having some art deco touches in the styling.
 
Jared B said:

Dodge or Chrysler Needs a Smaller Four-Door Sedan​

The Time is Now for A Smaller RWD-Based Sedan...​


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For years, Dodge and Chrysler have been known for their big, bold sedans. The last-generation Dodge Charger was often criticized for its massive size, yet the all-new, all-electric 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona is even bigger. While muscle car enthusiasts love the commanding presence, there’s a growing demand for a smaller, sportier four-door sedan—one that could bring performance and practicality together in a more compact package.

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Dodge or Chrysler Needs a Smaller Four-Door Sedan

For years, Dodge and Chrysler have been known for their big, bold sedans. The last-generation Dodge Charger was often criticized for its massive size, yet the all-new, all-electric 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona is even bigger. While muscle car enthusiasts love the commanding presence, there's a...
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This falls under No Chance In Hell.
 
Every time I see this Chrysler concept I get upset. Why in heavens sake did this not make it to production? Much more beautiful than the actual Chrysler 200 that eventually was discontinued.
The answer to this survey of opinions is a resounding YES !!!
 
To add a viewpoint. Build two midsized vehicles, a luxury four door sedan for Chrysler and a muscle car coupe or hatchback for Dodge. Differentiation comes from very different styling and boosted versions of the same engine for Dodge. AWD will add the needed driving characteristic to set them up as very appealing.
Those who claim the sedan and coupe are dead are ignoring those pesky imports that dominate with all those hot selling dead sedans out there. The market is ready for Stellantis to use its mid-size platform for more than SUVs.
 
I wonder what the Halcyon Concept will lead to. A lot has happened in the electrification of automobiles since the Chrysler 200C EV concept toured the auto show circuit. The 4th gen ZF plugin hybrid transmission offers specifications and performance which totally trounces the REEV system found in this 2009 Chrysler concept.

We will see a production version of the Halcyon concept, as a Nissan. Rumors are going around about the next Sentra being much more aerodynamic and offering a REEV option. A production sedan which is on sale now in Europe is the Mazda EZ-6 sedan. It is an EV, but it also offers a range extender option in markets that allow it. The reason I'm bringing up these two Asian sedans is that if Chrysler offers a sedan with the Halcyon's styling it will be seen as a Nissan or Mazda wannabe.

The Chrysler 200C concept still looks great. It looks like a Chrysler and has a presence to it. The interior was designed when touchscreens were new and exciting. Since then consumers of all demographics are demanding knobs and switches. I really like the concept's instrument cluster being built into the dash. Too many vehicles today have a tablet stuck to the dashboard that looks cheap and ugly.
 
bill burke said:
To add a viewpoint. Build two midsized vehicles, a luxury four door sedan for Chrysler and a muscle car coupe or hatchback for Dodge. Differentiation comes from very different styling and boosted versions of the same engine for Dodge. AWD will add the needed driving characteristic to set them up as very appealing.
Those who claim the sedan and coupe are dead are ignoring those pesky imports that dominate with all those hot selling dead sedans out there. The market is ready for Stellantis to use its mid-size platform for more than SUVs.
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Those whom thinks midsize cars are viable business in the outside of China is simply needs to touch grass.
 
This conversation continues on from another one.
Jared B

Thread 'Unfulfilled Promise: Chrysler's 2009 200C EV Concept'

As Chrysler navigates its course toward an all-electric future, a reflective glance at the 2009 Chrysler 200C EV Concept reveals a compelling vision unfulfilled—a design masterpiece poised to redefine the brand’s trajectory in the realm of electric mobility. Exterior Brilliance: A Visionary Statement in Design – “Designed for the car lover, the Chrysler 200C EV … (read full article...)

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patfromigh said:
This conversation continues on from another one.
Jared B

Thread 'Unfulfilled Promise: Chrysler's 2009 200C EV Concept'

As Chrysler navigates its course toward an all-electric future, a reflective glance at the 2009 Chrysler 200C EV Concept reveals a compelling vision unfulfilled—a design masterpiece poised to redefine the brand’s trajectory in the realm of electric mobility. Exterior Brilliance: A Visionary Statement in Design – “Designed for the car lover, the Chrysler 200C EV … (read full article...)

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Actual the conversation died with this:
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Still over capacity and dominated by established player ... STILL... better .... but still .... 2.5% tariff from Turkey ..... Maybe the Tipo but nothing with the US cost structure. ROI and margin aren't made on wishful thinking. It is what it is.
 
AlexB said:
Those whom thinks midsize cars are viable business in the outside of China is simply needs to touch grass.
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Ok nobody knows what you’re trying to say. Touch grass. Just be quite Alexa
 
Based on the current challenges facing the US auto industry in general, and Stellantis in particular, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for new projects to be greenlit any time soon. And I will be surprised if we don't hear announcements in the coming weeks about new vehicles already in the pipeline being (further) delayed or even canceled.
 
james.mooney. said:
Based on the current challenges facing the US auto industry in general, and Stellantis in particular, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for new projects to be greenlit any time soon. And I will be surprised if we don't hear announcements in the coming weeks about new vehicles already in the pipeline being (further) delayed or even canceled.
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Especially if they need to shift capacity
 
bill burke said:
Every time I see this Chrysler concept I get upset. Why in heavens sake did this not make it to production? Much more beautiful than the actual Chrysler 200 that eventually was discontinued.
The answer to this survey of opinions is a resounding YES !!!
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A lot of people don't realize that this car isn't a true EV... it uses the same technology they are introducing to the Ramcharger. It was a truly beautiful car.
 
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