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The topic about the Charger EV that nobody wants to discuss: the car doesn't exist.

This isn't Allpar - I'll do whatever I damn well please. Go look at the sales charts for 2025 for Ram vs 2019 for Ram. The I6 will do about as well in Ram as when they offered, briefly, the 2L Turbo in the 2019 Wrangler and Cherokee vs the Pentastar. Sales were so bad that they dropped the 2L engines for both vehicles shortly thereafter.

It's the same thing. Between offering the Hemi, the Pentastar, and the I6 in the Ram 1500 in 2026 and beyond - so few people will buy the I6 that will eventually removed as an option. Watch.
 
This isn't Allpar - I'll do whatever I damn well please. Go look at the sales charts for 2025 for Ram vs 2019 for Ram. The I6 will do about as well in Ram as when they offered, briefly, the 2L Turbo in the 2019 Wrangler and Cherokee vs the Pentastar. Sales were so bad that they dropped the 2L engines for both vehicles shortly thereafter.

It's the same thing. Between offering the Hemi, the Pentastar, and the I6 in the Ram 1500 in 2026 and beyond - so few people will buy the I6 that will eventually removed as an option. Watch.
Have you even driven a Ram with the Hurricane? You keep bashing it yet a lot of guys on the 5th gen Rams forum love it.
I had a '14 Penatstar Ram. That thing was awful. The Hurricane is great to drive and has good performance.
You sound like one of those who hate change and say we always did something a certain way and that way was the best.
 
This isn't Allpar - I'll do whatever I damn well please. Go look at the sales charts for 2025 for Ram vs 2019 for Ram. The I6 will do about as well in Ram as when they offered, briefly, the 2L Turbo in the 2019 Wrangler and Cherokee vs the Pentastar. Sales were so bad that they dropped the 2L engines for both vehicles shortly thereafter.

It's the same thing. Between offering the Hemi, the Pentastar, and the I6 in the Ram 1500 in 2026 and beyond - so few people will buy the I6 that will eventually removed as an option. Watch.
You sound like a fuggin child. “I’ll do whatever I please”. You’re a moron. And you’ve failed, miserably, to back up your statements. Truly a stupid, pitiful man child

The 2.0L is currently available in Wrangler. And Hurricane will continue to sell because….wait for it….its the ONLY AVAILABLE POWERTRAIN!!!! What an idiot
 
@cygnus In case you aren’t intelligent enough to understand that, you’re STILL wrong on every point. Wrong.
 
@cygnus In case you aren’t intelligent enough to understand that, you’re STILL wrong on every point. Wrong.

Go ahead and live with your delusions, I'll align my views with the sales sales charts and profits from 2010-2019.
 
Have you even driven a Ram with the Hurricane? You keep bashing it yet a lot of guys on the 5th gen Rams forum love it.
I had a '14 Penatstar Ram. That thing was awful. The Hurricane is great to drive and has good performance.
You sound like one of those who hate change and say we always did something a certain way and that way was the best.

It's not a bad engine, it's just not worth the premium they're asking for. Everything has a price, including complexity. The truth is that the vast majority of buyers just want a simple truck with a high displacement V8 engine that they can easily repair.

Go read the hundreds of Instagram and YouTube comments. People will tell you what they want.
 
This isn't Allpar - I'll do whatever I damn well please. Go look at the sales charts for 2025 for Ram vs 2019 for Ram. The I6 will do about as well in Ram as when they offered, briefly, the 2L Turbo in the 2019 Wrangler and Cherokee vs the Pentastar. Sales were so bad that they dropped the 2L engines for both vehicles shortly thereafter.

It's the same thing. Between offering the Hemi, the Pentastar, and the I6 in the Ram 1500 in 2026 and beyond - so few people will buy the I6 that will eventually removed as an option. Watch.

100% F Allpar. I was banned for a year for simply speaking truth about product, truth that came to pass over the last six months. Then they let me back in last week. Today I posted that "nobody wants to buy an EV because the $30k battery replacements hurt the idea of keeping one long term" and they banned me again. What a complete joke. I'd like to meet that moderator in a dark alley.
 
Allpar is an EV bubble, surrounded on all sides by reality 😂
 
100% F Allpar. I was banned for a year for simply speaking truth about product, truth that came to pass over the last six months. Then they let me back in last week. Today I posted that "nobody wants to buy an EV because the $30k battery replacements hurt the idea of keeping one long term" and they banned me again. What a complete joke. I'd like to meet that moderator in a dark alley.
Allpar has always been a joke of a website. You either blindly love everything Daimler/Fiat/Stellantis does or you get banned. You also have to be a flaming left winger too.
 
Does Allpar actually still exist? I thought Zatz sold and it essentially folded or imploded. Haven’t been there in years. Actually last I recall was the 7.0 rumor before Hellephant (or maybe most crate packages) were even mentioned

God they should have done a 650hp NA 426 Hemi Challenger!😩
 
Does Allpar actually still exist? I thought Zatz sold and it essentially folded or imploded. Haven’t been there in years. Actually last I recall was the 7.0 rumor before Hellephant (or maybe most crate packages) were even mentioned

God they should have done a 650hp NA 426 Hemi Challenger!😩
Other sites Ive seen sold to autoguide the old regime stays on for a couple years as to not rock the boat and then they get quietly shuffled away and a new team takes over. Meanwhile zats is still running the place like the soviet union and spamming the **** out of his new site at every chance he gets
 
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