There Will NOT Be A Hurricane Plug-In Hybrid, After All!

Deckard Cain · Mar 31, 2022

This is a good move and anticipating the market trends for when this will be launched in the market. PHEV sales are stagnating and BEV sales are increasing.
This makes sure that the Grand Cherokee will accompany market trends while preventing dumping dollars into making a complex system that won't bring enough sales to justify investment. Notice how I didn't mention anything about the engineering merits behind this decision? Yes, there might've been a number of potential costumers for PHEVs but by 2024 or 2025 that number will be dwarfed by the number of costumers looking at pure BEVs.

By doing this, Stellantis is firmly planting the Grand Cherokee as the BEV of choice against Rivian, Tesla or any model that comes from Ford or GM's camp.
Just one doubt: PHEVs were discarded, but what about MHEVs?

bill burke · Mar 31, 2022

I agree. Give me gas powered vehicles and millions who agree with me are the future. People have figured this hoax out and will shop accordingly. CO2 crisis is manufactured and pragmatic environmental action and economically sound intervention will prevail eventually not hysteria without real evidence. All electric a rabbit hole for the auto industry. Right decision.

redriderbob · Mar 31, 2022

Mopar392 · Mar 31, 2022

redriderbob said:
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So they need to plant more trees and stop defrosting.

patfromigh · Mar 31, 2022

Ram Trucks has to consider their commercial and fleet buyers as well as the retail market. I think it would be a mistake not to offer a PHEV option in Ram pickuo trucks. A Hurricane plugin hybrid would be a great drive train for the Power Wagon.

It makes great business sense to have the Wagoneer and Ram 1500 battery electric vehicles to share as much engineering and parts as practical. I would assume they are doing this. From what I've sen from the concepts, both vehicles are targeted towards retail purchasing consumers. I don't know if Wagoneer buyers would miss having a PHEV option.

UN4GTBL · Mar 31, 2022

Disappointing, but likely would have been in a vehicle that was out of my budget anyways lol

Hoping for a KM 4xe, but who knows.

Rustydodge · Mar 31, 2022

This is a disappointment. Didn't the CEO just say how hybrid is actually better/cheaper a few weeks ago?

Unless there will be some very rapid charging options in the very near future spread all over the country, and i'm talking <15 minutes to go from 10-20% up to as near as 100% that full BEVs allow, this is a terrible decision. Not to mention the higher taxes coming for BEVs to supplement the lost tax revenue from ICE, and the increased costs of electricity due to higher demand.

Oh well, i guess ICE or mild hybrids will still be around for a while on Ram / waganeer / upcoming durango. Or i can buy a tahoe.

redriderbob · Mar 31, 2022

UN4GTBL said:
Disappointing, but likely would have been in a vehicle that was out of my budget anyways lol

Hoping for a KM 4xe, but who knows.

There will be two different versions of KM according to my sources. KM74 (Cherokee) will be offered as a BEV and ICE.

TripleT · Mar 31, 2022

redriderbob said:
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Under 280 ppm plant starve... Just saying.

Mopar392 · Mar 31, 2022

TripleT said:
Under 280 ppm plant starve... Just saying.

Then bring those polluting V8 HEMI..

Moparound · Mar 31, 2022

I have refrained from posting for a long time as I never wish to speak against another or their dreams and/or wishes. But, this whole BEV/EV, etc. is just mind boggling. Am sure the whole topic has been beat to death. So, I'll just say this and move on: Current(pun intended)BEV's are NOT for me. When the electrical grid is able to withstand the additional load, when the cost of electricity does not become the new "gas market", when batteries are easily replaceable, when batteries are affordable, when I can charge my vehicle to more than 70% of full charge within 3-8 minutes, when a rebuildable or biodegradable/disposable battery is created the environment is not at risk by adding battery dumping grounds like the nuclear waste ones(which by the way is being promoted as "clean energy" as well, maybe I'll be interested. Call me a dinosaur, it's perfectly fine with me. I get it. BEV = no antifreeze, oil/filers, etc, but those chemicals can be recycled. Most batteries cannot.

Keeping ICE and waiting for something better that what is being brought to market. Not buying into it. Write me off.

TripleT · Mar 31, 2022

Mopar392 said:
Then bring those polluting V8 HEMI..

If your a Plant CO2 is not a pollutant Oxygen is.... just sayin

UN4GTBL · Apr 1, 2022

redriderbob said:
There will be two different versions of KM according to my sources. KM74 (Cherokee) will be offered as a BEV and ICE.

No hybrid option at all, or is that available with the ICE version?

BEV is a non starter for me.

patfromigh · Apr 1, 2022

I suspect with the success of the 4Xe Wrangler, Stellantis has to be considering more plugin hybrids. Stellantis is partnered with ZF for the rear drive based PHEV system and the next gen of the 8-speed offers a P2 mild hybrid. Hopefully, only the hybrid version of the Hurricane is in doubt and not various future plugin hybrid offerings with other IC engines. The Hemi PHEV Ram pickup project from last decade was larger and more extensive than the 1960s Turbine car project. What ever became of that?

That said, right now I can't afford any of the hybrids Stellantis is currently offering in North America. I can afford a Ford Maverick hybrid.

redriderbob · Apr 1, 2022

UN4GTBL said:
No hybrid option at all, or is that available with the ICE version?

BEV is a non starter for me.

There will be two different KMs....

as for powertrains.... ICE and BEV

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There Will NOT Be A Hurricane Plug-In Hybrid, After All!