Will there be an Americanized from sedan from Peugeot?

[Muther]

So, Peugeot has some great compact cars? What are the odds that they may get American versions? Which would give SRT a great platform for an SRT4 replacement?

 

[Bili]

Ex PSA doesn't have great platforms. Not even close.

 

[TripleT]

Peugeot has some great compact cars???? What make one think that Peugeots ugly new cars are better than the Fiats we have had access to for nearly a decade?

Have you driven any of them? My experience as a American traveling the world is PSA cars would take quit a lot of work to make them even mildly fit for USA consumption.

I think the Merger makes sense for scale in the EU, but two things for sure, Pepe Le Cheapskate at the helm is problematic, and no PSA cars are not better than Fiat counter parts no matter how many top hats they slap on them.

 

[cygnus]

2025 or 2026, and it will be a small BEV.

 

[cgseller]

Peugeot has some great compact cars???? What make one think that Peugeots ugly new cars are better than the Fiats we have had access to for nearly a decade?

Have you driven any of them? My experience as a American traveling the world is PSA cars would take quit a lot of work to make them even mildly fit for USA consumption.

I think the Merger makes sense for scale in the EU, but two things for sure, Pepe Le Cheapskate at the helm is problematic, and no PSA cars are not better than Fiat counter parts no matter how many top hats they slap on them.

I have several people who like the 4 cylinder Chrysler 200c for ride, comfort, feel, and economy (even with the low rear door entry). Not everyone in America needs throttle however I agree the conditioning of US consumers is heavy on power. It would not be a high volume seller is my guess, but may make enough to cover costs after a few years...

 

[Tony K]

I have several people who like the 4 cylinder Chrysler 200c for ride, comfort, feel, and economy (even with the low rear door entry). Not everyone in America needs throttle however I agree the conditioning of US consumers is heavy on power. It would not be a high volume seller is my guess, but may make enough to cover costs after a few years...

A 4 with a mild hybrid like the eTorque system would take care of most folks' needs getting on the interstate in traffic, or getting the car moving through the gears from a stoplight. Once you get to speed, most of your HP is just keeping the machine moving, and pushing a certain amount of air over ~ 45 MPH.

 

[KrisW]

The answer to the original post is "no, probably not". Stellantis has more or less the same regional structures as FCA had, so once again, decisions on product for the USA get made in the USA. Technically speaking, PSA brings nothing to the table that's any more suitable for US consumers than the options that were already available from FCA - the opposite, in fact. Those PSA sedans might look like a nice size, but the gasoline engine options are small and underpowered by American standards (they're borderline by European standards; only the diesels are competitive).

A version of FIAT Tipo with the forthcoming 1.5 engine is the closest thing Stellantis would have to a US-ready compact sedan, although there are lots of contractual and logistical problems around actually using Tipo (basically, Tipo must be built in Turkey under the terms of the JV, but there's no way that the Turkish manufacturer could meet both European and US demand; but creating a, say, Mexican site of production would undermine the JV too as it would create temptation to source European product from there).

Realistically, any new car for the USA would have to be a new Small-Wide vehicle, but one unrelated to Tipo. There may be such a vehicle coming, but it would be a SUV not a sedan, simply because buyers of compact cars prefer SUVs to sedans.

 

[cygnus]

I think you’ll all be very surprised at the next net new vehicle that’s coming. It’s not a crossover, and it’s not the EV I alluded to earlier.

Hint - look at prior filings for trademarks.

 

[AlexB]

I think you’ll all be very surprised at the next net new vehicle that’s coming. It’s not a crossover, and it’s not the EV I alluded to earlier.

Hint - look at prior filings for trademarks.

RWD?

 

[cygnus]

RWD?

No

 

[patfromigh]

So what is the status of the plant in Serbia which produces the Fiat 500L? What ever happened to the replacement for the 500L?

 

[KrisW]

I think you’ll all be very surprised at the next net new vehicle that’s coming. It’s not a crossover, and it’s not the EV I alluded to earlier.

Hint - look at prior filings for trademarks.

Names can come back, but on different types of vehicle.

 

[cgseller]

A 4 with a mild hybrid like the eTorque system would take care of most folks' needs getting on the interstate in traffic, or getting the car moving through the gears from a stoplight. Once you get to speed, most of your HP is just keeping the machine moving, and pushing a certain amount of air over ~ 45 MPH.

Good point - you could probably get by with an even less number as the technology is tuned. I wonder if regenerative breaking w/ wind-turbine and solar charging are being investigated... The costs are high now - but battery power is not long term sustainable - it will have the nuclear problem of waste someday.

 

[Tony K]

The costs are high now - but battery power is not long term sustainable - it will have the nuclear problem of waste someday.

That's not even remotely comparable. For one thing, batteries NOW last 10-15 years in hybrids/electric cars. For another, battery recycling is much less problematic vs dealing with nuclear waste.