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What is SRT working on...?

Muther

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The only people blabbing anything are race teams.

Again, Indont know if Wesley Motorsports is helping out with any mystery Chally. They may, they may not. I don’t even know for sure about any mystery Chally. Only what has been rumbling around with the race teams to whom I talk.

I do know that Ralph is the head of SRT. Ralph races. Ralph is fast. Watch Ralph Race. Watch Ralph Win. (sorry, got distracted). Point being, if you are head of Street and RACING Technology at FCARNM, and you come out with a racing car, it hade damned well better be racing car. I doubt Ralph would sell a racing car that was half baked (That is Mary Barra’s job).
 

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The only people blabbing anything are race teams.

Again, Indont know if Wesley Motorsports is helping out with any mystery Chally. They may, they may not. I don’t even know for sure about any mystery Chally. Only what has been rumbling around with the race teams to whom I talk.

I do know that Ralph is the head of SRT. Ralph races. Ralph is fast. Watch Ralph Race. Watch Ralph Win. (sorry, got distracted). Point being, if you are head of Street and RACING Technology at FCARNM, and you come out with a racing car, it hade damned well better be racing car. I doubt Ralph would sell a racing car that was half baked (That is Mary Barra’s job).

Are you inferring that Mary should be 'Back to the Kitchen"??? ;)
 

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I'm rather late to this thread, but from public statements made by Mike Manley, I would have guessed an increase in hybridization. While it does not appeal to me as a long time fan of the v8 roar, that seems to be the direction in which things are being pushed . . . That said, if they were to develop a hybrid that had both a roaring V-8 combined with an instant-on 1,000 lb. ft electric motor I can see some appeal there. I don't know how much involvement SRT would have in something along those lines, but it may account for all the crickets.
I was just thinking the other day how I like the idea of SRT being either brand neutral or it's own "brand" such that you can call the Trackhawk engine a Hellcat without being technically incorrect.
One change I would like to see is the "S" in SRT. I would change that to Performance Race Team so it could include off-road as well as on-road racing.
Wasn't the demise of the Viper associated with crash test expenses? Not sure how they'd get around that, but I do miss the Vipers being in the lineup. I've always been fond of them.
There's a lot of things SRT could be working on. What little inside information I have has nothing to do with SRT so I have no hints to drop. I will say though, I am surprised that some of the things I saw some time ago have yet to make it into a public announcement. However, there are some rumored model updates pending that may reveal which direction some things went.
As a TRX nut, the trickle of information has been painful, but I get it. It's a business and they are focused on selling the vehicles people can buy today, lest they leak too much information about the future compelling those in the know to wait when what the business wants is sales for this quarter. They do seem to be holding their cards tight to their chests.
Perhaps - and I'm guessing here, they're combining a Challenger and a Viper. Something along the lines of a shortened, two-seater, track focused Challenger to go after the Camaros, Corvettes, and Mustangs and the handling advantage they hold over the Challengers and Chargers which have functional rear seats instead of those jokes the competitors put out which are nothing more than glorified child seat platforms or additional storage. That would both reduce weight, shorten the wheelbase to improve cornering, and with some other modifications (think body/appearance) be a completely different vehicle than the Challenger or the Charger and share an Alfa/Maserati platform for scalability. Is there a market for such a thing? Gots me, but it would be cool to shut up those hordes droning on about how Camaros, Corvettes, and Mustangs all hold an edge on the track over the Dodge performance options when 99% of those cars never see a track anyway.
That way . . .
- Dodge would own the street (already does).
- Dodge would own the track (used to with the Viper).
- Ram would own the dunes (TRX).
- Jeep would own the rocks (already does).
I've also seen a fair amount of interest in online forums pertaining to an on-road muscle truck. They didn't last in the past and I don't think the market for them has expanded enough to warrant each of the big three making one, but currently, nobody makes one, and Ram could make money being the only game in town much like Ford is still making a killing with the Raptor being the only production quality pre-runner available. I also hope Ram designs the production TRX to accommodate 37" tires - even if it doesn't come stock with them. I can understand not making that a stock offering because of the increased weight of rotating mass and accompanying fuel mileage concerns (not that FCA is concerned, but that regulations and fines take the fun out of life). So coming with 35s, but having space for 37s would be awesome - I hope that's the route they take (the mules observed wore 35s). Raptor owners wanting 37s have to fit new fenders - and that takes the expense off the charts (and much depends on the quality of the fabricators).
All of that could be in scope for SRT, I don't know. I suspect the TRX and off road ventures may be out of scope, but the amount of interest the TRX has generated may change that mindset.

One thing, however, is very certain. 2020, the 2021 model year is going to be absolutely amazing for Mopar fans. Things are already pretty spectacular and seem to be continuing to improve.
 

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There is also the Speed Trap Dodge Durango Pursuit thing. Maybe they have lots of plans for the Redeye - updated Trackhawk, Durango, and possibly stuff it in the TRX?
In a town hall several weeks ago when Mike Manley mentioned the TRX following the Ram, he interrupted himself to ask someone sitting near the front "how much horsepower does it have?" with a huge smile on his face. That combined with the airflow characteristics associated with the horsepower increases on the newer Hellcat and the Redeye's decrease from the Demon (717 vs. 707 & 808 vs. 797) makes me think they're doing something interesting with the TRX - perhaps the size and dimension characteristics of the truck open up more possibilities and the TRX would have more than 800 horsepower? Can't wait to find out.
 

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Are you inferring that Mary should be 'Back to the Kitchen"??? ;)
No, I am saying that the cars of the company she runs are ugly, and that several of their top performance cars were at best half baked. ZR1, and the really fast Camaro had spooky handling when driven as intended. THAT shouldn’t happen in this day and age. Ralph would never let a car like the ZR1 hit the streets with improperly calibrated handling.
 

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@VoiceOfReason should like our article Sunday...

FYI... we have already talked about a trio of vehicles SRT is currently working on...

  • Dodge Charger SRT HELLCAT Redeye
  • Dodge Durango SRT HELLCAT
  • Ram 1500 Rebel TRX

Are they coming out with Durango Hellcat or Redeye?
The concept from One Lap of America suggests they are testing the Redeye.
 

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What if the hypothetical ACR-Pack Challenger will be the one to present the 426HEMI?
We know the 426 was tested for production, and a limited production (since it will be for one or two years) trim will allow Mopar to put the 426 into production yet control any issues.
 

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What if the hypothetical ACR-Pack Challenger will be the one to present the 426HEMI?
We know the 426 was tested for production, and limited production (since it will be for one or two years) trim will allow Mopar to put the 426 into production yet control any issues.

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They studied that already...
 

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To those who don't think the Challenger isn't porky or too heavy, it's because you don't own one ? Live with one for a few years and then comment.

I say; Bring out a light weight Cuda based on one of the Italian brands platform as that may be the only hope ? Make the base engine the NA 392 and watch out !
 

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Years ago there was a rumor that SRT was working on a 'Cuda based on the Giulia. Wonder if that was ever a project, but I always wanted to see SRT compete directly with the Mustang and Camaro.
 

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Years ago there was a rumor that SRT was working on a 'Cuda based on the Giulia. Wonder if that was ever a project, but I always wanted to see SRT compete directly with the Mustang and Camaro.
The closest thing to that we have right now is a Dodge sedan that may or may not still be based on the Giulia. Think Avenger replacement.

Obviously they could make something more dedicated, but I don't know how likely that is.
 

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I think the only way we'll see a dodge body with giulia bits is if the guilia continues to sell at a snails pace and they have to start making their investment back, and even that is a stretch but Chrysler has done weirder things.
 

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Isn't the next grand cherokee going to have some gorgio bits/architecture? So why wouldn't we expect next charger/challenger to have guilia bits/architecture?
 

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That was thought to be the case for a while. Then things changed during the last five-year plan: Dodge working on significant upgrade to current Challenger and Charger platform

The platform isnt ideal for charger/challenger, but parts of the architecture/design will be.

I think its silly to view the FCA brands as isolated towers each developing their own thing. Auto manufacturers don't re-make the wheel every time they come out with "new" stuff. I bet next gen challenger/charger will utilize bits of design/architecture that were developed/learned for guilia just like the next gen grand cherokee will., despite what dodge Dodge or Jeep marketing material might say.
 

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