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Official: Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA with 540 HP

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Alfa Romeo Debuts 540 Horsepower Giulia GTA & GTAm!
Only 500 Units Total Being Built...



Alfa Romeo Debuts 540 Horsepower Giulia GTA & GTAm! - Mopar Insiders
 

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Why the heck did this thing get a wing and the 500 special addition daytona anniversary cars did not??
 

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The rear wing adds downforce, but also drag, so it will make the car slower on a straight-line acceleration test - downforce is only of benefit when cornering at speed. So, why would Dodge fit something that makes their special-edition car perform worse on a quarter-mile sprint, the one measurement that everyone will ask the owner about?

The car with the huge wing is the GTAm, which might be "steet legal", but really only in the way WRC cars are... rear roll-cage, four-point seatbelts, fire extinguisher ... and it comes with a tailor-made flame-retardant suit and a personalised helmet. Really, nobody buying that car is going to use it as a daily-driver.
 

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I do know the function of a wing...:)

My point was how much of a nothingburger the daytona 50th anniversary car was to me. 10 hp bump, a sticker to mimic a wing, and rims basically outside of interior bits. These GTA and GTAm cars on the other hand seemed to get a little more unique treatments.

Plus the 50th daytona wasn't a special "performance' version really...otherwise they majorly failed with the whopping 10 hp gain IMO.
 

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Well, I don't think there are any exclusive Alfa dealers. In Europe they're usually Alfa/Jeep dealers or Fiat/Jeep/Alfa dealers.
In the US, they're usually paired with Maserati or Fiat.
 

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And as far as they are paired with Fiat or even with Jeep at some markets they will not be considered as a premium brand.
Fiat is not a premium brand although some 500 family products are more upscale. Jeep is considered as junk in Germany and UK. Of course in Italy or even France people have different opinion about Jeep. FCA has problems to breakthrough in Germany in UK.

Of course for US FCA needs bigger models than Giulia and Stelvio.
 

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And as far as they are paired with Fiat or even with Jeep at some markets they will not be considered as a premium brand.
Fiat is not a premium brand although some 500 family products are more upscale. Jeep is considered as junk in Germany and UK. Of course in Italy or even France people have different opinion about Jeep. FCA has problems to breakthrough in Germany in UK.

Of course for US FCA needs bigger models than Giulia and Stelvio.
Jeep's image is improving in Germany - the Germans are quite favorable towards the idea of American cars, but just didn't like the reality, and in fairness you can't blame them for that: the pre-FCA Jeeps were not reliable, and anything that needed a replacement part meant a three month wait.

The British media, though, will never accept that anything is better than Land Rover, when the truth is that everything is better than Land Rover.
 

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Well, I remember seeing an Autogefuhl review of the Renegade in which he started the review by dissing its interior (Thomas is extremely nitpicky about interiors) but by the end of the review he was grinning like a maniac because he had so much fun with it.
So yeah, I think germans are receptive to Jeep. And they like Alfa.
 

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Thomas is j***.
 

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Well, I remember seeing an Autogefuhl review of the Renegade in which he started the review by dissing its interior (Thomas is extremely nitpicky about interiors) but by the end of the review he was grinning like a maniac because he had so much fun with it.
So yeah, I think germans are receptive to Jeep. And they like Alfa.
With Opel and PSA, I see Jeep improving in standing with both Germany & France.
 

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Eh, the germans don't love Opel.
In France I see Jeep's standing definitely improving though.
 

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Video about GTA and GTAm in italian, but can be activate the automatic translator.
Downforce, generated by aerodynamic improvements, in GTA is up to 1.5 times more that in a Quadrifoglio, for the GTAm is 3 times more.
 

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Well, I remember seeing an Autogefuhl review of the Renegade in which he started the review by dissing its interior (Thomas is extremely nitpicky about interiors) but by the end of the review he was grinning like a maniac because he had so much fun with it.
So yeah, I think germans are receptive to Jeep. And they like Alfa.
I enjoy his Compass review for the scenery alone. Folks would be surprised at how many Alfa Romeo dealerships there are in Germany. Giuliettas are fairly common. Granted they stick out in a sea of Germanic sheet metal. I've been passed by a Giulia QV on A93 as I was heading back to Grafenwoehr from a Sunday in Regensburg. The first Giulia I laid eyes on was an American-owned one on base down at Hohenfels (BY) in 2017. Now, yes, the older classic ones were touchy. I asked an Italian Lt Col in the Bersaglieri Reg't, who was big on motorbikes, if he's ever owned an Alfa. He admitted that yes, he had, and he was always working on it, so it departed. I also passed a classic AR owned by a German officer driving out the main gate of Grafenwoehr in 2018. He's stopped on the road, I guess to remove a cover. I stopped to ask if all was okay. It was. Sweet car. My memory is a bit cloudy, but it looked like a Tipo 33 Stradale, so I suspect it was some sort of kit car. That or it was just a spider with the headlight covers.
 

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