Official: Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA with 540 HP

KrisW

Member
The rear wing adds downforce, but also drag, so it will make the car slower on a straight-line acceleration test - downforce is only of benefit when cornering at speed. So, why would Dodge fit something that makes their special-edition car perform worse on a quarter-mile sprint, the one measurement that everyone will ask the owner about?

The car with the huge wing is the GTAm, which might be "steet legal", but really only in the way WRC cars are... rear roll-cage, four-point seatbelts, fire extinguisher ... and it comes with a tailor-made flame-retardant suit and a personalised helmet. Really, nobody buying that car is going to use it as a daily-driver.
 

Rustydodge

Active member
I do know the function of a wing...:)

My point was how much of a nothingburger the daytona 50th anniversary car was to me. 10 hp bump, a sticker to mimic a wing, and rims basically outside of interior bits. These GTA and GTAm cars on the other hand seemed to get a little more unique treatments.

Plus the 50th daytona wasn't a special "performance' version really...otherwise they majorly failed with the whopping 10 hp gain IMO.
 

Deckard Cain

Active member
Well, I don't think there are any exclusive Alfa dealers. In Europe they're usually Alfa/Jeep dealers or Fiat/Jeep/Alfa dealers.
In the US, they're usually paired with Maserati or Fiat.
 

Bili

Official Pilot
Staff member
And as far as they are paired with Fiat or even with Jeep at some markets they will not be considered as a premium brand.
Fiat is not a premium brand although some 500 family products are more upscale. Jeep is considered as junk in Germany and UK. Of course in Italy or even France people have different opinion about Jeep. FCA has problems to breakthrough in Germany in UK.

Of course for US FCA needs bigger models than Giulia and Stelvio.
 

KrisW

Member
And as far as they are paired with Fiat or even with Jeep at some markets they will not be considered as a premium brand.
Fiat is not a premium brand although some 500 family products are more upscale. Jeep is considered as junk in Germany and UK. Of course in Italy or even France people have different opinion about Jeep. FCA has problems to breakthrough in Germany in UK.

Of course for US FCA needs bigger models than Giulia and Stelvio.
Jeep's image is improving in Germany - the Germans are quite favorable towards the idea of American cars, but just didn't like the reality, and in fairness you can't blame them for that: the pre-FCA Jeeps were not reliable, and anything that needed a replacement part meant a three month wait.

The British media, though, will never accept that anything is better than Land Rover, when the truth is that everything is better than Land Rover.
 

Deckard Cain

Active member
Well, I remember seeing an Autogefuhl review of the Renegade in which he started the review by dissing its interior (Thomas is extremely nitpicky about interiors) but by the end of the review he was grinning like a maniac because he had so much fun with it.
So yeah, I think germans are receptive to Jeep. And they like Alfa.
 

AlexB

Well-known member
Well, I remember seeing an Autogefuhl review of the Renegade in which he started the review by dissing its interior (Thomas is extremely nitpicky about interiors) but by the end of the review he was grinning like a maniac because he had so much fun with it.
So yeah, I think germans are receptive to Jeep. And they like Alfa.
With Opel and PSA, I see Jeep improving in standing with both Germany & France.
 
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