Here Is What We Know About The Next Dodge Charger & Challenger!

Here Is What We Know About The Next Dodge Charger & Challenger!​

Next Muscle Car Duo Will Debut In-Late 2023...​

With the Dodge brand pushing forward towards electrification (or eMuscle as the brand calls it), there has been a lot of questions and concerns regarding the next-generation Dodge Charger (LF) and Challenger (LB) muscle cars. As Dodge continues to be very guarded about its new muscle car lineup, some recent information has come to attention over the past few months about the new pair of American muscle cars.

Here Is What We Know About The Next Dodge Charger & Challenger!

With the Dodge brand pushing forward towards electrification (or eMuscle as the brand calls it), there has been a lot of questions and concerns regarding the next-generation Dodge Charger (LF) and Challenger (LB) muscle cars. As Dodge continues to be very guarded about its new muscle car lineup...

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[Masimitch]

I’ve been hearing about GME-T6 engine for a while now.. is it real?? Where are they being produced??

 

[redriderbob]

Just type in GME-T6 on LinkedIn and you will see tons of ex-Chrysler employees and current ones confirming its exsistance.

 

[Mopar392]

Did Stellantis really modify "Giorgio" and have credit for the STLA Large to be capable of mHEV, PHEV and BEV or did they just improve the capability already existed in the "Giorgio"?

I can see GME-T6 coming out like this:
SO will be a single twin-scroll turbo or small dual mono-scroll turbos, similar to what BMW has done with N54, N55 and B58.
HO will be large dual mono-scroll turbos, similar to BMW S54 and S58.
Then the PHEV will have a large conventional turbo with electric supercharger.

My personal choice will still be the HEMI.

 

[bill burke]

This is a topic that Dodge fans will read with enthusiasm, I did for sure. I will refrain from too much detailed here, just a couple of items. The obvious direction Dodge is going with has been intellectually well thought out and is squarely based on upcoming corporate hard wear and soft wear with a Dodge performance theme and direction. Great !! I have been calling for Jeep to totally redefine the Cherokee by creating a shortened and downsized Jeep Cherokee built on the RWD Grand Cherokee platform and manufactured in one of the GC factories, This investment will eliminate most of the current Cherokee short comings ( too short, too narrow, not capable enough) and the overlap with Compass as a FWD platform rival. Switching the new midsize RWD/AWD Stellantis platform as rumored to Belvedere gives much credence to that whole theory with a new plant to build all kinds of vehicles off this platform and also renews the argument for a new Chrysler 300 on that platform. A new 300 should be a stable mate to the Dodge twins as it is currently and Chrysler is given a very achievable new lease on life, as is Cherokee. If this Mopar Willy theory is little more than a pipe dream. I apologize, But, big but coming...... but, as a serious theory with sound logic and merit, with a very financially cost effective business case, I submit it to my friends here with complete confidence in that soundness. Oh yes, and the coveted "Mopar Willy Seal of Approval".

 

[bill burke]

Did Stellantis really modify "Giorgio" and have credit for the STLA Large to be capable of mHEV, PHEV and BEV or did they just improve the capability already existed in the "Giorgio"?

I can see GME-T6 coming out like this:
SO will be a single twin-scroll turbo or small dual mono-scroll turbos, similar to what BMW has done with N54, N55 and B58.
HO will be large dual mono-scroll turbos, similar to BMW S54 and S58.
Then the PHEV will have a large conventional turbo with electric supercharger.

My personal choice will still be the HEMI.

Why I am keeping my 209 Challenger as insurance, but I am open to something new to join it in the future,

 

[Mopar392]

Let’s keep this thread strictly to Dodge. We have already discussed Jeep and Chrysler on multiple threads.

 

[TripleT]

Did Stellantis really modify "Giorgio" and have credit for the STLA Large to be capable of mHEV, PHEV and BEV or did they just improve the capability already existed in the "Giorgio"?

I can see GME-T6 coming out like this:
SO will be a single twin-scroll turbo or small dual mono-scroll turbos, similar to what BMW has done with N54, N55 and B58.
HO will be large dual mono-scroll turbos, similar to BMW S54 and S58.
Then the PHEV will have a large conventional turbo with electric supercharger.

My personal choice will still be the HEMI.

yes,,,, without going into a long boring explanation. It is the seed design, that grew into a new design. Today you can choose to start from scratch, which is daunting and increases the chance for failure, or you can iterate.... with each iteration you apply the lesson learned and data collected to make something better than the last.

Some will claim that Giorgio had zero value because there may not be a shared SKU, this is fundamental misunderstanding of the state of computational design. They would literally have to purge everything leaned in the last 8 year for that to be true.

 

[Mopar392]

And this is my point. PSA didn’t electrify “Giorgio”. They only improved it using their much bigger experience.

 

[TripleT]

And this is my point. PSA didn’t electrify “Giorgio”. They only improved it using their much bigger experience.

Yes that would be old approach, every time you touch something today it should be improved.