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FORGOTTEN: The 2007 Chrysler Nassau Shooting Brake Concept Car:

FORGOTTEN: The 2007 Chrysler Nassau Shooting Brake Concept Car:​

HEMI-Power, Rear-Wheel-Drive, Hatchback Take On The 300 Series...​


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The modern-day Chrysler 300 Series has played a significant role for the Chrysler brand since 2004. The American-designed, Canadian-built large sedan has gone from a beloved icon and winning MotorTrend’s Car of the Year award in 2005 to a vehicle that continues to sell modestly well considering there is virtually no marketing campaign for or anything to remotely promote its existence over the past handful of years.

 
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FORGOTTEN: The 2007 Chrysler Nassau Shooting Brake Concept Car:​

HEMI-Power, Rear-Wheel-Drive, Hatchback Take On The 300 Series...​


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The modern-day Chrysler 300 Series has played a significant role for the Chrysler brand since 2004. The American-designed, Canadian-built large sedan has gone from a beloved icon and winning MotorTrend’s Car of the Year award in 2005 to a vehicle that continues to sell modestly well considering there is virtually no marketing campaign for or anything to remotely promote its existence over the past handful of years.

This would work 14 years later!
Why is still showing up at car shoes? Makes you think....
 

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If Sergio and FIAT didn't spend all their resources and (US) funding on saving the European Market instead of reinvesting in the (delayed and further delayed) 3C's, I believe this would have been the next 300 with a trunk. Between this 2007 and the later 200EV, it is so bad that the American Public will never see these evolutionary Chrysler models! We can only hope that the next Charger will be retro'd to the concepts they said they were going to follow!
 

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Obviously any business has to make tough decisions but too often that phrase is a poor excuse for incompetence at high levels. Where do we put the decisions to cancel, the PT Cruiser, the Sebring convertible, the 200, the Crossfire and the Pacifica crossover SUV ? I have opinions on that one. Awful decisions all, every darn one, just pitiful. Now the outstanding 300 faces a so called tough decision, a decision that forbodes poorly and one that Chrysler may again regret forever. Sad perhaps and better explained, just another knee jerk, rash, stupid example of pattern incompetence in high places. You make the call, but never question the elite bean counters. It wasn’t them who wasted all the talent and tradition and achievements of the Chrysler brand, it was tough decisions. Rubbish!
 

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If Sergio and FIAT didn't spend all their resources and (US) funding on saving the European Market instead of reinvesting in the (delayed and further delayed) 3C's, I believe this would have been the next 300 with a trunk. Between this 2007 and the later 200EV, it is so bad that the American Public will never see these evolutionary Chrysler models! We can only hope that the next Charger will be retro'd to the concepts they said they were going to follow!
They didn't save the European market, in fact European side was underinvested!
Second we got stop lying and gaslighting.......... the merged Company's financial structure (Ringfencing) banned any North American money going to Europe until they repaid a certain $2 billion of debt which they did in March 2016 Moody's: Elimination of ring-fencing at FCA US LLC simplifies FCA NV's debt structure and enhances liquidity; ratings and positive outlook unchanged

It was Cerberus-era Chrysler that '' they said they were going to follow'' not Exor current era of FIAT-Stellantis.
Only thing evolutionary about these so-called Chrysler model was the trash bin they belong in which the U.S. Government felt all of Chrysler without FIAT belongs in.
 

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Obviously any business has to make tough decisions but too often that phrase is a poor excuse for incompetence at high levels. Where do we put the decisions to cancel, the PT Cruiser, the Sebring convertible, the 200, the Crossfire and the Pacifica crossover SUV ? I have opinions on that one. Awful decisions all, every darn one, just pitiful. Now the outstanding 300 faces a so called tough decision, a decision that forbodes poorly and one that Chrysler may again regret forever. Sad perhaps and better explained, just another knee jerk, rash, stupid example of pattern incompetence in high places. You make the call, but never question the elite bean counters. It wasn’t them who wasted all the talent and tradition and achievements of the Chrysler brand, it was tough decisions. Rubbish!
Ford during there Wall Street Conference Call just done calling those segments you are complaining about ''declining segments'' and reference Fusion/Focus/Fiesta ''Me-Too'' products.
Those ''Me-Too'' outperformed those Chrysler products mention by you.
Killing those products where awesome decisions.
 
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The Chrysler Sebring Karman convertibles were terrible cars and plagued by quality glitches. The sad part is the previous generation of Sebring convertibles were graceful, practical and well built. That is the convertible I miss. It was Daimler's decision to mess up the convertible. It was also their decision to replace the PT Cruiser with a badge engineered VW Golf. Fortunately that one didn't see the light of day. The final PT Cruisers were de-contented, penny pincher specials. There were two hatchbacks which replaced the PT Cruiser. The Dodge Caliber and then the later Fiat imported 500L. The drivetrain in the Fiat was more of a drive-train-wreck. It is a good thing Fiat's North American marketing was bad enough that few were bought and thus preventing a huge catastrophe.

What we did get during the FCA years was improved drivelines, class leading trucks and SUVs. We are on the verge of seeing electrified vehicles which also may become class leaders.
 

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Maybe your opinions are Incompetence..................... Ford during there Wall Street Conference Call just done calling those segments you are complaining about ''declining segments'' and reference Fusion/Focus/Fiesta ''Me-Too'' products.
Those ''Me-Too'' outperformed those Chrysler products mention by you.
Killing those products where awesome decisions.
Not following your statement. How did the Ford products mentioned outperform the models Bill pointed out? And are you saying the original Pt Cruiser and Pacifica deserved to be axed? Most of the universe is in agreement that those two models were way ahead of their time, trend setting, and killed off by incompetent management, just as Mopar Willy stated.
 

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Not following your statement. How did the Ford products mentioned outperform the models Bill pointed out? And are you saying the original Pt Cruiser and Pacifica deserved to be axed? Most of the universe is in agreement that those two models were way ahead of their time, trend setting, and killed off by incompetent management, just as Mopar Willy stated.
Yes they deserve axe for the same. PT became a rental discount queen. See Ford Freestyle as to why original Pacifica didn't do well market.
The Fusion for some months outsold Nissan Altima, had under 30% fleet mix and great reviews. The Fusion/Focus/Fiesta metrics were better than GM and Chrysler-FCA products, and Ford went the same direction Sergio did.
Fusion even had Mexico labor and still suffer from the problems in that category: Buyers moving to Truck/SUV/CUV + declining pricing.
 

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They didn't save the European market, in fact European side was underinvested!
Second we got stop lying and gaslighting.......... the merged Company's financial structure (Ringfencing) banned any North American money going to Europe until they repaid a certain $2 billion of debt which they did in March 2016 Moody's: Elimination of ring-fencing at FCA US LLC simplifies FCA NV's debt structure and enhances liquidity; ratings and positive outlook unchanged

It was Cerberus-era Chrysler that '' they said they were going to follow'' not Exor current era of FIAT-Stellantis.
Only thing evolutionary about these so-called Chrysler model was the trash bin they belong in which the U.S. Government felt all of Chrysler without FIAT belongs in.
 

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So perhaps Alex may not recall Sergio's wanting to resurge the FIAT and (failed) US Dealership Infrastructure. Those US 500 sales are really bustin out! Or how bout the Lancia resurgence in Europe! And last but not least the money and resources with the short lived 4C Spider as well as the soon to be shorten life span of the Stelvio and Giulia architecture as well as the light at the end of the tunnel for Lancia? While Sergio was not Iacocca to say the least, I believe history that will reflect in the future that Sergio was no more than a gangster intertwining his Italian military and business experience that almost corrupted Chrysler and the UAW! I hope I am wrong but with the heavy prison terms handed out to former Chrysler and UAW executives, I think Sergio's death was an ideal time for him to evade prosecution. And we won't even talk about the delayed and again delayed model roll outs of the Rams, Grand Cherokees, Wagoneers, Chargers, Challengers and 300s!
 

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Maybe your opinions are Incompetence..................... Ford during there Wall Street Conference Call just done calling those segments you are complaining about ''declining segments'' and reference Fusion/Focus/Fiesta ''Me-Too'' products.
Those ''Me-Too'' outperformed those Chrysler products mention by you.
Killing those products where awesome decisions.
Clearly we disagree. Awesome? Where would Chrysler be today with a small crossover like the PT Cruiser which defined the segment and was incredibly successful, with an updated halo sports car, truly an affordable luxury two seater, like the Crossfire, with a mid size sedan, coupe and convertible that were made competitive with updates and marketing support, and how about a near luxury SUV for Chrysler, a vehicle evolved from the Pacifica that I owned and was just way ahead of its time, if only one existed today at Chrysler. If these vehicles were not abandoned, if the talent that produced the Nassau was allowed to do its thing, if only, now that, that would be awesome.
 

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So perhaps Alex may not recall Sergio's wanting to resurge the FIAT and (failed) US Dealership Infrastructure. Those US 500 sales are really bustin out! Or how bout the Lancia resurgence in Europe! And last but not least the money and resources with the short lived 4C Spider as well as the soon to be shorten life span of the Stelvio and Giulia architecture as well as the light at the end of the tunnel for Lancia? While Sergio was not Iacocca to say the least, I believe history that will reflect in the future that Sergio was no more than a gangster intertwining his Italian military and business experience that almost corrupted Chrysler and the UAW! I hope I am wrong but with the heavy prison terms handed out to former Chrysler and UAW executives, I think Sergio's death was an ideal time for him to evade prosecution. And we won't even talk about the delayed and again delayed model roll outs of the Rams, Grand Cherokees, Wagoneers, Chargers, Challengers and 300s!
FIAT brand in the U.S. is an operation of North America, not Europe with products made in Mexico. So your “resurge the FIAT” with U.S. money is a bold lie.
 
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well as the soon to be shorten life span of the Stelvio and Giulia architecture as well as the light at the end of the tunnel for Lancia? While Sergio was not Iacocca to say the least, I believe history that will reflect in the future that Sergio was no more than a gangster intertwining his Italian military and business experience that almost corrupted Chrysler and the UAW! I hope I am wrong but with the heavy prison terms handed out to former Chrysler and UAW executives, I think Sergio's death was an ideal time for him to evade prosecution. And we won't even talk about the delayed and again delayed model roll outs of the Rams, Grand Cherokees, Wagoneers, Chargers, Challengers and 300s!
Now the rest of the nonsense:The prison terms they handed out to people that GM hired.
Richard Palmer the Chief Financial Officer and John Elkann the Chairman & Largest Investor where not charged.

John hired Sergio , oversee Sergio, regularly engaged with Sergio and would be the ultimate beneficiary of Sergio’s actions. John is American which makes him easier due to no factor of International Agreements.

The fact there’s no action shows how weak the any evidence would be in front of a Judge. Another example is the cases file by Employees of FCA/Stellantis, and the lawsuit by GM was all dismissed with prejudice.

John Elkann is the Chairman and Largest Investor of Stellantis while Richard Palmer is still the CFO of Stellantis. Same Legal Counsel as Sergio too.
 

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Clearly we disagree. Awesome? Where would Chrysler be today with a small crossover like the PT Cruiser which defined the segment and was incredibly successful, with an updated halo sports car, truly an affordable luxury two seater, like the Crossfire, with a mid size sedan, coupe and convertible that were made competitive with updates and marketing support, and how about a near luxury SUV for Chrysler, a vehicle evolved from the Pacifica that I owned and was just way ahead of its time, if only one existed today at Chrysler. If these vehicles were not abandoned, if the talent that produced the Nassau was allowed to do its thing, if only, now that, that would be awesome.
Money drag. All those products you mention are in declining segments, and there’s no evidence of pricing power those ideas could get .
The bread and the butter of Chrysler is RAM & Jeep.
 

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So tell me where are all those 'new' Fiat dealerships are today and how are they being used? Converted to FCA Quick Oil Change facilities as well as Ram Dodge Chrysler ReCon facilities or sold to third string C dealers!
 

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A number of CDJR dealers have signed up to sell Fiats. There is no longer any need to have separate facilities for the Fiat brand. In addition to that, a few dealerships well outside of California have trained their service personnel to service the California 500e. This occurred even after the announcement that particular model would be discontinued.
 

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Am I the only one who recognizes or even comprehends the irony here of someone who is an obvious Chrysler fan having to defend the brand from someone who obviously hails from Europe on this site tagged with the name Mopar? LOL. Sign me signing off. You guys have fun . I’ve had enough of this absurdity.
 

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