Detroit News - Jeep model BEV coming in 2023, Dodge PHEV coming next year

[Bili]

They mention it for 2025 during EV Day.

They've mentioned something with huge battery but I'm not sure that it's technically BEV.

Actually I would put my hand in a fire and say that STLA Frame on the presentation had big battery and place to put internal combustion engine.

And they called it REPB, something like that, Range Electric Paradigm Breaker.

Of course they may offer classic BEV but I think that REPB will be something special.

It's not so hard to guess what REPB means. It may differ based on execution but it's not BEV and it's not PHEV.

 

[AlexB]

They've mentioned something with huge battery but I'm not sure that it's technically BEV.

Actually I would put my hand in a fire and say that STLA Frame on the presentation had big battery and place to put internal combustion engine.

And they called it REPB, something like that, Range Electric Paradigm Breaker.

Of course they may offer classic BEV but I think that REPB will be something special.

It's not so hard to guess what REPB means. It may differ based on execution but it's not BEV and it's not PHEV.

REPB gave me the impression it a rebranding of special PHEV
(For example in Cities it can be a pure EV, then become a hybrid on the Highway).

 

[Bili]

REPB gave me the impression it a rebranding of special PHEV
(For example in Cities it can be a pure EV, then become a hybrid on the Highway).

AFAIK no. And this technology is not something which doesn't exists but it's not often and Stellantis, actually this is ex FCA project, may be unique in some way.

 

[patfromigh]

(For example in Cities it can be a pure EV, then become a hybrid on the Highway).

That sounds like the Gen4 ZF PHEV transmission. I don't know what GVW ranges that transmission will cover.

The new Hydrogen fuel cell setup for the Sevel Nord LCVs (which are due by the end of the year) is also considered a range extended EV. The fuel cell is the range extender. Such a system is practical for fleet vehicles with a fixed service area and a depot based refueling infrastructure. I doubt such a setup would work on a consumer market vehicle here. I don't know what the hydrogen fuel infrastructure looks like in Europe, but I do know they are way ahead of us in BEV charging infrastrucure.

 

[patfromigh]

I guess the two Fiat Pro BEV will be rebadged PSA/SEVEL Nord models…?

That would be my guess. A battery electric Fiat Scudo is certainly a safe guess because we know a Scudo is coming. I don't know what the capacity is at Sevel Nord, but the Russian plant is growing and will probably take up any backlog. There is also the promise of a new BEV production line at the Vauxhall plant in England, but I'm not sure which LCVs will be produced there.

I'm scratching my head about what the other Fiat Professional product would be. Will Stellantis badge engineer the upcoming Peugeot Partner battery electric van? If they do what will happen with the Doblo?

 

[AlexB]

On the RAM Pickup I do see multiple options….
One EV to take on Lighting
One EV to take on Cybertruck
One“Fancy” PHEV (REPB)
One lower end PHEV
Ford during Earnings stated 80% of F150 Lighting waiting list are Coastal Markets, so outside the coasts and markets like Austin/Dallas/Houston/San Antonio RAM EV will be a rare appearance.
RAM PHEV offerings will be a bridge technology.

 

[Autojunkie]

So your new here Yeah the WL will not be common to the future Durango, the Wagoneer is where you should look.

There will be several 4xe powertrains.... for the future Durango the Tornedo will be a better fit.

New here, but not new to what's been going on in Auburn Hills. I think you're looking a bit too far ahead in the future. If you're looking at "next year" then the current Durango is the only option as there are plans for it to soldier on for the next few years. The new instrument panel is a dead giveaway to an updated electrical architecture that could accommodate a the 4xe powertrain from the PHEV GC as early as "next year".
I haven't seen any produciton-ready or near-production mules of the rumored Warren Truck Dodge SUV yet. That truck is still a few years away from market introduction. MY 2024 is the earliest you'll see an all-new Dodge model that is either PHEV or BEV and that includes the models build here and abroad for the Dodge brand in the North American market.

 

[cygnus]

New here, but not new to what's been going on in Auburn Hills. I think you're looking a bit too far ahead in the future. If you're looking at "next year" then the current Durango is the only option as there are plans for it to soldier on for the next few years. The new instrument panel is a dead giveaway to an updated electrical architecture that could accommodate a the 4xe powertrain from the PHEV GC as early as "next year".
I haven't seen any produciton-ready or near-production mules of the rumored Warren Truck Dodge SUV yet. That truck is still a few years away from market introduction. MY 2024 is the earliest you'll see an all-new Dodge model that is either PHEV or BEV and that includes the models build here and abroad for the Dodge brand in the North American market.

Current Durango is not going PHEV.

 

[Mopar392]

New here, but not new to what's been going on in Auburn Hills. I think you're looking a bit too far ahead in the future. If you're looking at "next year" then the current Durango is the only option as there are plans for it to soldier on for the next few years. The new instrument panel is a dead giveaway to an updated electrical architecture that could accommodate a the 4xe powertrain from the PHEV GC as early as "next year".
I haven't seen any produciton-ready or near-production mules of the rumored Warren Truck Dodge SUV yet. That truck is still a few years away from market introduction. MY 2024 is the earliest you'll see an all-new Dodge model that is either PHEV or BEV and that includes the models build here and abroad for the Dodge brand in the North American market.

None of the current Dodge lineup is going PHEV or traditional hybrid.
The new GC is on a different platform than the current Durango.

 

[Bili]

MY 2024 is the earliest you'll see an all-new Dodge model that is either PHEV or BEV and that includes the models build here and abroad for the Dodge brand in the North American market.

MY23 Dodge Hornet PHEV Made in Italy and on sale in North America.

More coming as MY24.

 

[Bili]