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2019 Chevrolet Silverado First Drive Review | Solidly mainstream

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2019 Chevrolet Silverado First Drive Review | Solidly mainstream
The Trail Boss is our top pick, but it needs a nicer interior

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The life of a fullsize pickup truck used to be easy. Not because the workhorses weren't put to the test, pulling trailers, hauling loads, and schlepping through the mud, but because they were tools expected to perform one specific job. These days, pickup owners expect a lot more from their trucks and are just as obsessed with the grain of their leather interior as they are with a class-leading spec sheet.

It's into this quagmire of disparate necessities that Chevrolet launches the 2019 Silverado. Like its competitors — specifically the Ford F-150 and Ram 1500GM's latest fullsize truck has to be all things to all people. A commuter during the day, a luxury carat night, and a competent weekend warrior when it comes time to work and play. After spending some time with the 2019 Silverado, we think Chevy has done a pretty good job with its latest pickup. We fully expect that it will remain a strong seller that generates a steady stream of profit for the Bowtie. But not all is perfect in Silverado-land.

The 2019 Silverado is available in eight trim levels, starting with the most basic Work Truck for $31,290 and culminating in the leather-clad High Country for $55,990. The LT level is the bread-and-butter of the lineup, with a traditional exterior look highlighted in chrome and an interior that features an eight-inch touchscreen and optional leather seats. New models for 2019 are the $41,790 RST and $42,490 Trail Boss.

The 2019 Chevy Silverado RST is meant to appeal to the performance crowd with nearly all bits of chrome from the LT replaced with body-color trim. The monochromatic look works pretty well in bright shades and in black, but less so in light colors and white. We'd consider the optional 22-inch wheels a necessity to complete the muscle-truck look. Unfortunately, there isn't any actual added performance from the RST over any other Silverado.

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Much more interesting is the new 2019 Trail Boss, which is available as a package on the lower-cost Custom trim or the more fully featured LT trim. The LT Trail Boss starts at $48,890, and our optioned-up tester carried a $54,930 window sticker. With a blacked-out face punctuated by a beefy red pair of tow hooks, the Trail Boss is a ruggedly handsome truck. The Z71 Off Road Package comes standard on the Trail Boss, but the big selling points are the factory-installed two-inch suspension lift, Rancho shocks, and skid plates.

We spent most of our time with the LT Trail Boss, both on and off road. And when we got a crack at the makeshift off-road course that Chevrolet created using a backhoe, a truck full of logs, several tons worth of boulders, and, most important, a dedicated water truck, we didn't take it easy. You can see the results in the photos above, but what they won't show you is how solid the Trail Boss felt through all of these tests. And by the time we buckled ourselves into this particular truck, it had already made several hundred passes through the obstacle course and felt no worse for the wear — we listened carefully for squeaks, rattles, or any other indication that the truck was faltering after so much abuse and found none at all. That's a good sign for long-term durability.

Our Trail Boss was powered by the latest version of Chevy's tried-and-true 5.3-liter V8 engine. Two versions of this engine are available for 2019, and both of them churn out 355 horsepower and 383 pound-feet of torque. The first of these V8s carries over from the previous Silverado, is mated to a six-speed automatic gearbox, and features Active Fuel Management, which allows the V8 to run on four cylinders under certain circumstances.

The second 5.3 is hooked to an eight-speed automatic and benefits from a new technology called Dynamic Fuel Management that continuously shuts cylinders on and off as needed. GM says it fires on fewer than eight cylinders more than 60 percent of the time. And it all works seamlessly. We couldn't tell how many cylinders were firing while we were driving, and when we asked for full steam ahead we got it without delay. The EPA estimates the new 5.3 will deliver 17 miles per gallon city, 23 highway, and 19 combined. Depending on equipment, the 2019 Silverado with this new 5.3-liter V8 can tow as much as 11,600 pounds.

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We also took a spin in an LTZ powered by Chevy's optional 6.2-liter V8, which for 2019 is hooked to a 10-speed automatic and is available only with four-wheel drive. With 420 hp and 460 lb-ft, this is the engine that allows the Silverado to tow its maximum rating of 12,200 pounds. From behind the wheel, the 6.2 and 10-speed feel a bit more sprightly than the smaller 5.3 V8. The 6.2 also gets GM's newfangled DFM technology, and it has EPA estimates of 16 city, 20 highway, and 17 combined.

If you want a Chevy truck with the absolute highest payload rating, you're going to need to choose the standard 4.3-liter V6, which can haul 2,500 pounds. With 305 horsepower and 285 lb-ft, base Silverado models can also tow as much as 8,000 pounds. A new 2.7-liter turbocharged four-cylinder that we didn't get to test will start hitting dealerships a little later this year.

Now would be a good time to mention that none of these towing or hauling figures are class-leading. The latest Ford F-150 can tow as much as 13,200 pounds with its 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 and boasts a max payload rating of 3,270 pounds with a 5.0-liter V8 engine. F-150 models equipped with Ford's 2.7-liter turbocharged EcoBoost six-cylinder engine (which matches up against Chevy's 5.3-liter V8) have EPA estimates as high as 22 city, 26 highway, and 22 combined.

A good bit of credit for Ford's class-leading tow, payload, and efficiency ratings can be attributed to its aluminum-intensive architecture, which saves weight compared to steel. Chevrolet has gone down a somewhat different path with the 2019 Silverado, choosing to use lightweight aluminum for certain exterior panels while sticking with various grades of steel everywhere else, including the pickup bed. That means while Chevy wasn't able to cut quite as much weight as Ford did several years back with the F-150, a 2019 Silverado Crew Cab is still about 450 pounds lighter than the outgoing truck. And, since steel construction is cheaper than aluminum, it also means that Chevy can likely pocket a bit more profit from each Silverado sale than it could if it dove more fully into lightweighting measures.

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The most glaring deficiency of the 2019 Silverado is its interior, which just isn't up to snuff compared to the most recent Ford and Ram offerings. A seven-inch infotainment system that includes Apple CarPlay and Android Auto is a welcome piece of standard equipment, and optional bits like the segment's first head-up display, a surround-view camera setup and a rear-camera mirror are nice touches. But none of the materials have a premium feel, and the trim — faux wood in some models, an odd cross-hatch in others — looks cheap. Even the most expensive High Country, which replaces the aluminum-painted surround of the center stack with a bronze-painted surround, lacks the polish of Ford's Platinum and Limited trim levels. And there's no show-stopping technology centerpiece like Ram's vertically oriented 12-inch touchscreen, either.

Partly atoning for the lack of pizzazz is a focus on practicality. Chevy's engineers added 3.9 inches to the wheelbase of the 2019 Silverado versus the old truck. From the outside, the 2019 is 1.2 inches wider, 1.5 inches taller, and 1.7 inches longer. All that extra space adds up to a cabin that feels more roomy than the last Silverado, especially the rear seat with its 43.4 inches of leg room (a 3-inch improvement).

Just as important, Chevy was able to equip the 2019 Silverado with the largest truck bed in the segment. Compared to the last Silverado, the short bed increases from 53 cubic feet to 63, the standard box swells from 62 to 72, and the long box goes from 75 to 80. There are also 12 fixed tie-down points in the bed, each of which is rated to hold 500 pounds, up from the 250 pounds of the old truck. Accessing all that space in the bed can be made easier by a power-operated rear tailgate, but only on LTZ and High Country models.

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Out on the road, the 2019 Silverado behaves just as you'd expect from a modern pickup truck. The ride is solid and, considering the capabilities, pretty comfortable. The live axle at the rear causes some expected sidestepping at highway speeds over angled bumps and dips. We didn't expect much steering feel from the Silverado, but were pleasantly surprised by the slight tightening up of the wheel when the truck is switched into Performance mode using a knob on the upper left side of the dashboard. Performance mode, which is new for 2019, also adjusts the programming of truck's transmission for a slightly sportier feel.

We towed a 6,000-pound cargo trailer with a Silverado LTZ powered by the 6.2-liter V8. As you'd expect, considering that this weight wasn't anywhere near the maximum load the truck is capable of pulling, the Silverado basically just shrugged off the test. Even if we didn't have the chance to push the truck to its trailering limit, we did appreciate Chevy's latest suite of towing aids. Buyers can option up to four cameras to help line up a truck and its trailer, including one pointed straight down at the hitch. An app in the Silverado's LCD screen monitors the temperature and air pressure of the trailer's tires in real time, and it can also connect to a smartphone to conduct a trailer light test while the driver is outside of the vehicle. Up to five trailer profiles can be remembered by the app, and it will remind the owner of each trailer's regular maintenance needs.

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Targeting the heart of the pickup market by offering lots of mid-level choices is probably a smart play for Chevrolet. We really like the Trail Boss package, and appreciate that it's available at the lower-cost Custom or the more fully featured LT trim. A larger cabin, a bed that's 20 percent larger than before, a 14 percent improvement in payload capacity, a 5 percent gain in tow ratings, and a 5 percent increase in fuel efficiency are all welcome steps in the right direction. But none of the towing, payload, and fuel efficiency figures are enough to beat the Silverado's main competitor, the Ford F-150, despite Chevy having several years to catch up. Plus, the lackluster interior and the lack of a true luxury package are missteps that we can't overlook.

There's a lot more Silverado news to come, particularly the Duramax 3.0-liter turbo diesel inline-six engine that we're really looking forward to testing. For now, though, we can't fathom a scenario in which Chevy passes Ford for fullsize pickup truck sales dominance.

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Ready for the Revolution: 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 First Drive
Posted by Mark Williams | August 13, 2018


We've seen this playbook before: Big truckmaker redesigns a popular pickup truck and it looks like designers mashed everything but the kitchen sink into and onto the new body and frame. Most recently, we saw it with the 2019 Ram 1500, but also the 2017 Nissan Titan and even the 2015 Ford F-150. Now Chevrolet puts its best effort forward in one of the most important (and profitable) automotive classes with the 2019 Silverado 1500. There's plenty to discuss here, but if you just want our driving impressions, skip down to More Sport, More Strength.

All-New, Top to Bottom, Front to Back
Chevy gave us our first opportunity to get behind the wheel of the fourth-generation Silverado half ton in the wilds of Wyoming and Idaho, where we drove several iterations of the new pickup on lonely, scenic high-altitude byways and on a challenging, multi-obstacle off-road course. We also pulled some 6,000-pound trailers around parts of the Snake River. This new pickup is bigger, stronger and lighter than ever before, saving more than 400 pounds of total weight (the hood, tailgate and doors are made from aluminum) while providing more power with more engine options, all of which will offer impressive fuel-saving technology.

This entirely new vehicle has a new, fully boxed frame made from several different types of high-strength and ultra-high-strength steels with nine unique cross-members. The new frame saves 88 pounds from the previous model. The suspension components attached to it have been reengineered to reduce and minimize resistance points to better control ride quality. Also, the truck's body has been computer sculpted with nine different types of metals to save weight and improve strength, as well as help absorb any crash forces that need transferring away from occupants.

The most popular configuration for this class is the four-door crew-cab short-bed (5.5 feet in the Silverado's case) model, which now has a wheelbase almost 4 inches longer than the 2018 model's but increases in overall length by less than 2 inches. This means engineers moved the wheels farther into the corners for more stability. All crew-cab models will provide almost 3 inches of additional legroom for rear passengers and two hidden storage pockets in the seatbacks of the rear seats; seatback will also be wall-mounted to better insulate the cabin from outside noise.



The new Silverado 1500 will eventually have six powertrain choices, doubling last year's number, some of which introduce new Dynamic Fuel Management technology that allows the V-8s to run on just one to eight cylinders to conserve fuel. DFM will offer up to 17 different software adjustments that can control each cylinder individually to provide the most specifically tailored and most efficient use of the cylinders needed at any given point based on load and other inputs.

The powertrains include an entry-level 4.3-liter V-6 with GM's active fuel management (deactivates from six to four cylinders to conserve fuel) and six-speed transmission, a 5.3-liter V-8 with AFM and six-speed, an all-new turbocharged 2.7-liter inline four-cylinder with AFM and a new eight-speed, a more technologically advanced 5.3-liter V-8 with DFM and an eight-speed, the 6.2-liter V-8 with DFM and a 10-speed, as well as the yet-to-be-seen turbo-diesel 3.0-liter inline six-cylinder Duramax engine with a 10-speed. The only EPA fuel economy estimates currently available are for the two engines we drove: the 5.3-liter V-8 with DFM (17/23/19 mpg city/highway/combined) and the 6.2-liter V-8 with DFM (16/20/17 mpg).

A Favorite for Every Fan
The new trim level lineup delivers some interesting choices. What Chevy calls the high-value-category trims begin with the base Work Truck that offers features popular with fleet buyers like vinyl floors and cloth seats with a less stylized overall look. The next trim is Custom, which offers a more personalized look with body-colored trim, chrome accents and even a 20-inch aluminum wheel option. The final choice in the high-value category is the Custom Trail Boss, a more economical off-road truck that will still offer some impressive 4x4 features (a 2-inch suspension lift, the Z71 Off-Road Package, and locking rear differential and extra skid plating). In the mid-trim high-volume category, the LT will have a unique bow-tie grille, bigger touchscreen and available leather. Next is the all-new RST street-performance trim that adds a new all-wheel-drive transfer case, a 22-inch wheel option and LED lighting. The LT Trail Boss gets all the options of the LT along with a unique extra look and the Z71 Off-Road Package. Of the top two high-feature trim levels, the LTZ will include a leather interior and the High Country will get, among other things, a unique grille, a two-tone chrome-and-bronze finish and a class-exclusive power up/down tailgate.

Relatively unchanged for decades, Chevy's new pickup bed includes a few structural changes that could prove important to many new-truck buyers: It has a thinner out wall, providing 7 extra inches of usable inside width. This directly translates into more volume than any other short-bed pickup in the class. Additionally, the bed itself is made from several different materials to both save weight and increase strength; the floor is made from cold-rolled steel while the walls are made from several levels of high-strength steel. Every bed will offer 12 tie-down loops (three vertical stacks in each corner), some rated for up to 500 pounds. Additionally, there are nine other holes (three horizontally in each wall) to allow buyers to add more tie-downs or other bed accessories they may want. The new beds will also offer LED lighting and a 120-volt three-prong outlet as well as a newly reshaped (and more useful) bumper step. Finally, the tailgate will be offered in four variants: a manual gate with no lift assist that's manually lockable, a lift-assist gate with a manual lock, a power-lockable gate with one-touch power-release capability and the top-of-the-line class-exclusive gate that raises or lowers via the key fob, touchpads on the gate or a button in the cabin. As you might expect, the four levels of tailgate tech are matched with different trim packages.



In the technology arena, the 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 continues to offer 4G LTE Wi-Fi, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto and wireless phone charging along with all the benefits of OnStar. But it will also include a new, larger color head-up display and a full-time rearview-camera display in the rearview mirror (full width) that means you can literally see past head restraints, passengers or cargo in the bed for a real-time view of what's behind you. The truck will also offer a five-camera option to provide a stitched 360-degree bird's-eye view on the center console screen, along with auto braking, lane-keeping assist and forward collision warning with vibrating driver's seat alerts. Optional active safety features include a front camera system that can detect pedestrians and employ braking at up to 50 mph, visual and audible blind spot warnings, rear cross-traffic alert and more.

More Sport, More Strength
We drove three different versions of the 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 that gave us a pretty good understanding of the breadth and depth of the model lineup. The RST AWD crew cab marked our first chance to drive the new all-wheel-drive transfer case. The system allows for two-wheel drive, full-time all-wheel drive and 4-High, and includes a feature, through the antilock braking system, that allows the big truck to behave as if it has a low-range gear for short stretches of time (the system uses the ABS to create the effect). Chevy said owner feedback indicated they don't use low range much, but they do like having it "just in case," whether for a slippery boat ramp, washed-out dirt road or tugging a friend out of a ditch.

Our time with the RST crew cab was spent running up and down some two-lane mountain highways where we were able to romp on the throttle and carve through some tight S-turns as well as claw our way around a few decreasing-radius corners. Yes, the RST does get street-biased tires and ours did have the 22-inch alloy wheels, so the extra grip shouldn't have surprised us; however, what did surprise us is how well-integrated the throttle response, steering precision and road manners were in a pickup of this size. The quietness of the interior and composure of the chassis are in a different league from the truck it's replacing. We'd guess that the front-end feel would rival a normal European sports sedan. We know that might sound like an overstatement (we've certainly driven more pickups than European sports sedans), but the ride quality matched with tight and versatile steering feel is unusual in a vehicle this large, especially when there's a giant bed in the back.

We should note that all new Silverado half tons receive a two-position rotary dial (one turn for Towing/Hauling and the other for a Sport mode) that controls mapping for the electronically controlled steering assist, throttle sensitivity and transmission mapping. We found the RST loves to be in Sport mode, which drops you down a gear or so, elevates engine rpm and has you jumping in and out of turns.



The RST will be offered with a new turbocharged four-cylinder engine (something many longtime, full-size pickup owners might be skeptical about), bringing back the Tripower name, but our test truck had the 5.3-liter V-8 with the new multi-displacement DFM system. Since much of our test drive with this truck was at an elevation of 7,000, power was down more than 20 percent, but we sure didn't feel it. We found the pedal response immediate and the eight-speed transmission was always ready to jump up or kickdown a gear when called upon. It's like a performance package the lineup has never had. Clearly Chevy is putting its best efforts in the more subtle and invisible details of the chassis and suspension tuning here, matching power with road feel. We like that.

A Better Off-Roader
We also drove the new off-road 4x4 Trail Boss Z71, which has a mild 2-inch suspension lift, monotube shocks, extra skid plating, optional Goodyear Wrangler all-terrain tires and a better approach angle due to the absence of a lower plastic valance. Our off-road truck also had the standard 5.3-liter aluminum-block V-8 with the DFM system and eight-speed transmission, exactly the combination we had in the RST.

We ran this truck through the Grand Teton mountain range and, even at elevations reaching 9,000 feet we weren't wanting for passing power or carving prowess through the mountain passes. Even with a slightly taller stance than the other trim levels, there was not the slightest bit of "tippyness" to the road feel. The standout feature here during a section of smooth road was during hard cornering: The balance and control of the front end, as well as the composure of the rear live axle when running over choppy blacktop, was notable. We've driven a lot of half-ton pickups that have trouble maintaining their poise when driving empty over uneven surfaces. This is where you can tell GM gave its chassis engineers a lot of latitude.

We were thankful that at the end of our paved mountain drive, Chevy had created a private off-road park with several interesting 4x4 obstacles for us to challenge the Silverado 1500 Trail Boss. Given how controlled and firm the suspension was on mountain road, we found the Trail Boss impressively supple and compliant when navigating in low range over a pile of unevenly spaced logs and ruts. Combine that with the easier-to-use push-button electronic four-wheel drive, and the truck feels like it has a split personality.



Our test truck in the 4x4 park was equipped with 30-inch-tall Goodyear Wrangler tires at full tire pressures, which gave us the climbing power to claw our way over the crest of the steep hill climb. Waiting for us on the other side was a boulder-strewn pathway we had to traverse — it almost looked like those sharp and jagged chunks of broken granite wanted to reach out and slash the body panels. We found the throttle sensitivity sufficiently modulated to allow us to dance along the tops of the rocks without any of the annoying surge and stall cycles we've experienced on some trucks. Thankfully, Chevy kept the column shifter that can control the transmission with a manual rocker switch once pulled down into a manual mode. We crawled the rocks in 1st gear, L1.

Our final obstacle was a 20-yard stretch of mud and muck, just waiting to splash past the bumper and grille to be ingested into the air intake and engine compartment. So, we crawled along slowly, keeping our wheel speed relatively low while in low range, fighting for traction under the sludge. Not much drama there, but we did get some good action shots. You're welcome!

Living the High Life While Towing
Our third and final test truck was the top-of-the-line High Country hooked up to a 6,000-pound closed cargo trailer. The High Country (and the LTZ) come standard with the all-new Advance Trailering Systemthat makes towing about as easy and safe as we've ever seen on a half ton. Chevy does this by including a departure checklist within the touchscreen, equipping the truck with as many as six cameras, all of which can be accessed on-screen (some with zoom-in capability). There is even a theft alert you can activate that taps into the vehicle's alarm if someone is tempted to unhitch your trailer.

Among our favorite features: The system can check all the trailering lights to make sure they're in working order, as well as give the driver individual temperature and pressure readings for each tire in real time. But the most significant thing Chevy is doing to make trailering safer is putting a dedicated label on every Silverado 1500 that lists the gross vehicle weight rating, gross combined weight rating and maximum payload, tongue weight and trailering capacity for that particular pickup. Everyone will know exactly what their specific pickup can legally tow and carry — no more guessing. We really like that.



The camera settings were remarkably easy to control and adjust; we used the cameras to search around the truck and trailer, and even checked to make sure our chains were crossed properly — all from the safety of the driver's seat. As to ride quality, we suspect the trailer Chevy provided was perfectly weighted with low-center-of-gravity material (maybe lead ingots or bags of cement) and likely had the perfectly apportioned amount of weight on the tongue. It probably was not close to a normal towing experience, but with that in mind, the High Country with the 6.2-liter V-8 was composed and quiet during our 20-mile lake-loop highway drive. We found the 10-speed quick to downshift when looking to pass and it provided energetic downshifts when braking (sometimes two and three gears at a time), especially when in Tow/Haul mode. Our only complaint was that it did not have towing mirrors, which we hear will be an option by the end of the year. They will be electronically extendable and foldable into the truck, similar to what current heavy-duty models offer. Also, although Chevy's tow package gives you a bigger and stronger rear axle and lower axle gear, it does not offer any type of overload spring package to beef up the rear of the truck beyond a composite overload spring that is essentially there to save weight. We'd like to see more here.

Game-Changing Pickup
The pickups we drove were quite diverse and covered a healthy price range. The RST listed for just less than $50,000, while the LT Trail Boss Z71 was just less than $55,000 and the High Country just less than $65,000. For the full lineup, excluding options, base prices (including destination) start at $29,795 and go to $54,495.

The 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 is packed with new features and an impressive number of upgrades and improvements, but from what we've seen from the Silverado's direct competitors, that's pretty much the price of entry, especially if you want to make some noise and get attention. Manufacturers of other half tons will be watching, because this is what it looks like when a big corporation understands the value of a prized nameplate and gives it full support. Chevy doesn't seem to have skimped on this one. A dramatic look, new features, new trims, new technology and a vastly improved powertrain lineup (especially important to this class) clearly show this is a different Silverado 1500 than we've seen in the past. The Truck Wars are motivating engineers and corporate executives to go all-in to sell profitable pickups and grab more market share — and this half ton is just the latest piece of evidence. The 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 looks like it's going to be a game-changer for Chevy and the class.

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They missed an opportunity to add the 6.2 and other performance options to the RST. Without that, it’s just an appearance package.
 

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A few things I've noticed in these articles:

Autoblog is incorrect to state 2.7 EB matches up with the 5.3. GM's new 2.7 aligns more with the 2.7 EB while the 5.3 aligns with Fords 5.0.

And trucktrend mentioned the following:
Safety, Security, and Convenience
This is where things go a little sideways for us. We have a little bit of trouble understanding how certain features aren’t available on an all-new platform in this day and age. Adaptive cruise control, in general, is a staff favorite. However, it is not available on any trim of Silverado despite the competition offering it for several years. We also appreciate the collision alert system and low-speed automatic braking, but there’s no option for any sort of auto emergency braking, rear cross traffic detection, pedestrian detection, or reverse emergency braking.

While the pickuptucks.com article states this:
"The truck will also offer a five-camera option to provide a stitched 360-degree bird's-eye view on the center console screen, along with auto braking, lane-keeping assist and forward collision warning with vibrating driver's seat alerts. Optional active safety features include a front camera system that can detect pedestrians and employ braking at up to 50 mph, visual and audible blind spot warnings, rear cross-traffic alert and more."

So which is it? Is there auto braking, pedestrian detection, or rear detection or not?

Obviously GM improved their trucks. Looking forward to the comparison reviews.
 

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Pickuptrucks.com said:
The 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 looks like it's going to be a game-changer for Chevy and the class.

I don't see how pickuptrucks.com can say this with a straight face. Everyone else seems quite underwhelmed with the new Silverado/Sierra along with a lot of die hard GM fans. In fact, I'm seeing a lot of former GM guys buying 2019 Ram 1500s. In my opinion the 2019 GM trucks are a huge miss, these are trucks that could have come out years ago and don't push the envelope in any which way. I would say these trucks aren't even competitive with 2013+ 4th gen Rams or the 2015+ F150, nevermind the all new 2019 Ram 1500.

I wouldn't be surprised to see market share slip for GM with these trucks, last year the 4th Gen Ram outsold the Silverado 3 months out of the year, now we have an all new Ram that really has pushed the envelope and an all new Silverado that really is functionally no better and arguably worse looking than the outgoing Silverado which wasn't a looker in the first place. Ram has a shot to grab the #2 spot if they play their cards right.
 

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I agree Jared, was surprised when i read that. What on the new GM is game changing when compared to the competition? Basically, they finally matched some of what the comp is doing in some areas, while still falling up way short in other areas. I don't give much credence to any of these initial reviews, as mostly it is always positive regurgitation of marketing talking points (although when they specifically state deficiencies it is quite telling).

Ram on the other hand, matched comp in some areas or features where the 4th gen was deficient, while surpassing in areas where the 4th gen already excelled (interior, ride). I don't foresee any area where the GM will come out clearly on top in a comparison review, with the possible exception of v8 fuel economy or acceleration with the 6.2.
 

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My thoughts exactly. The 6.2 is a nice engine and paired with the 10 speed should be a solid powertrain. I'll give them that bit that is the only aspect of the truck that is appealing to me.
 

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My thoughts exactly. The 6.2 is a nice engine and paired with the 10 speed should be a solid powertrain. I'll give them that bit that is the only aspect of the truck that is appealing to me.
I do still like the front end...sometimes. I go back and forth. I like the unconventional pickup styling and it certainly doesn’t blend into the rest of its competitive group. Kind of like the 2019 Camaro: I wouldn’t buy one, but I respect them for taking a design risk.

If I had to buy a truck, it would still be a Ram.
 

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I do still like the front end...sometimes. I go back and forth. I like the unconventional pickup styling and it certainly doesn’t blend into the rest of its competitive group. Kind of like the 2019 Camaro: I wouldn’t buy one, but I respect them for taking a design risk.

If I had to buy a truck, it would still be a Ram.

Nothing wrong with being different and I agree, it's good to take the risk. I personally don't like the front end but I get what they were going for and give them credit for trying. Styling is so subjective anyways what one might think is beautiful someone else might think is hideous and so on.
 

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I do still like the front end...sometimes. I go back and forth. I like the unconventional pickup styling and it certainly doesn’t blend into the rest of its competitive group. Kind of like the 2019 Camaro: I wouldn’t buy one, but I respect them for taking a design risk.
I've got to say that I thought the front end design was terrible when I first saw it. I'm almost hesitant to write this, but certain configurations are starting to grow on me (e.g. the RST and High Country). But here's the thing...as a design professional, my initial reaction usually tells me whether I'll still like something in 10 years. If I'm unsure, it's either because something isn't quite right or I don't believe the design will age well.

Case in point...when I saw the 2018 F-150 Limited (newly refreshed) at the auto show, I thought they finally hit the mark on the front grille. I never considered buying one until they made that change. I'm not totally sold on those Limited-specific 22" wheels, though.

When I saw the 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn and Limited at that same show, I didn't immediately have a strong emotional connection with the exterior styling. I liked the outgoing model, so it took a bit of time for me to appreciate the understated, modern design direction of the new truck. I especially liked the (very clean) Longhorn grille design—which is what I eventually ordered.

(Interior is a different subject altogether. The Chevrolet doesn't break any new ground, which is a missed opportunity. The Ford hasn't quite gotten it right yet...too "Tonka-like" inside. The Ram—especially in Longhorn or Limited trim—is simply unmatched.)
 

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