New charger?

[AlexB]

“You would not imagine how exciting it is to electrify Dodge, which is all about e-muscle,” Tavares”

Stellantis CEO on weather events pushing electrification: Our company is ready

Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares said his company is ready for increased emissions regulations in light of recent devastating floods in Europe.

www.freep.com

“its first pure electric muscle car in 2024. Tavares said it is exciting to electrify Dodge and the brand will introduce its electrified muscle car very soon and that it will be "very transformational.”

Dodge Charger and Challenger Set to Survive in Stellantis' EV Future

Yee haw!

www.motortrend.com

 

[Mopar392]

There’s already a exercise that fly in the face of your post,: the Hornet is/ will be made Europe.

Dodge Hornet will be sharing a production line with other global products.

 

[AlexB]

Dodge Hornet will be sharing a production line with other global products.

STLA Large is too…..Maserati says hi.

 

[Mopar392]

STLA Large is too…..Maserati says hi.

Ok that I didn’t know Maserati is going to share the platform with the next Challenger and Charger

 

[ChargerFan1]

Maserati granturismo has very similar dimensions to challenger so that ones a no brainer, and they've been working on the EV maeserati stuff for awhile, especially the GT's replacement...hmmm

 

[Ryan]

Ok that I didn’t know Maserati is going to share the platform with the next Challenger and Charger

Will be on STLA Large which is not just for Charger and Challenger, but for several Jeep and Chrysler models too.

 

[redriderbob]

Now they're saying the cars will be leaving Brampton next year for a facility in the US

Next Dodge Challenger And Charger Ditching Canada For America

Not everyone will know that both the Dodge Challenger and Charger are built in Brampton, Ontario, Canada. They have been ever since the nameplates were revived in 2008 and 2005, respectively. Both the Chevy Camaro and Ford Mustang are built south of the border here in the US.

carbuzz.com

Didnt they just sign a new union contract last year up there?

It last till 2024

 

[ChargerFan1]

BAP may be turned into a battery plant - they're already in deep discussions with the Canadian gov't.

Stellantis CEO says Canada could be the location of its new electric-vehicle battery plant

Talks between the Amsterdam-based company and Ottawa are under way about a plant in Ontario or Quebec, but a specific location has not been discussed, a source tells The Globe

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Mopar392]

ELECTRIC DODGE MUSCLE CAR COULD BE SOLD ALONGSIDE CURRENT CHARGER, CHALLENGER

“The new platform comes in 2024,” said Tim. “The new car comes in 2024. We didn’t say that the current cars are going to die in 2024. There might be a little overlap, but you’re not going to have years and years and years of the classic and the new one at the same time.”

The more I read it, the more I think the next Charger and Challenger will be electric only.

 

[TripleT]

That would critical error.... many of the young kids the are the foundation of Mopar clubs and the growth in the brand are tuners.

It would kill Dodge.

It has been a consistent thing to bring new models to new capacity to allow zero model change over capacity loss. Jefferson will soon be available and Belvederes second line. This would allow Brampton's issues with narrow line to resolved or to be used and model where that would not be limiting.

 

[patfromigh]

I believe all Chargers and Challengers will be "electrified". This term includes 48V mild hybrids, high voltage plugin hybrids and then all the way up to full battery electric.

 

[AlexB]

ELECTRIC DODGE MUSCLE CAR COULD BE SOLD ALONGSIDE CURRENT CHARGER, CHALLENGER

The more I read it, the more I think the next Charger and Challenger will be electric only.

They may be launched with only a EV powertrain configuration with Hybrids & PHEV’s coming later almost a “trickle down” launch.

 

[Mopar392]

They may be launched with only a EV powertrain configuration with Hybrids & PHEV’s coming later almost a “trickle down” launch.

I’d prefer it to be the other way around.

 

[AlexB]

I’d prefer it to be the other way around.

C02 standards and making Wall Street happy (“Electrics are the future”).

 

[ChargerFan1]

That would critical error.... many of the young kids the are the foundation of Mopar clubs and the growth in the brand are tuners.

It would kill Dodge.

It has been a consistent thing to bring new models to new capacity to allow zero model change over capacity loss. Jefferson will soon be available and Belvederes second line. This would allow Brampton's issues with narrow line to resolved or to be used and model where that would not be limiting.

Yes but those guys won't enjoy getting routinely dusted by EV's which is already happening. I think Dodge's timing is perfect for this and EV's can be tuned, AEM is working on a tuner for the model S right now.

 

[patfromigh]

I drove a Challenger with AWD through a bitter cold front on a return trip from the WIndy City to Frostbite Falls, MN. The road conditions pretty much determined my speed, because I never go fast on slick surfaces. The headwinds knocked my mpg down to the mid-twenties on the dry interstates where I could increase my average speed.

There is a difference between being quick and being fast. I don't drive on slick surfaces because I hate getting busted if I break the law of physics. Constant high speed in an EV, without any catenary wire overhead to draw power from, also is subject to the laws of physics.

Often times a quarter horse is just a one trick pony.

 

[TripleT]

Yes but those guys won't enjoy getting routinely dusted by EV's which is already happening. I think Dodge's timing is perfect for this and EV's can be tuned, AEM is working on a tuner for the model S right now.

What kind of sick Joke is that, tuning a EV is about as fun as souping up a drying machine. Adding Ev enhancements to ICE is a wise transition but dropping the V8 suddenly would alienate Mopar people to a point that would be unrecoverable.

 

[ChargerFan1]

What kind of sick Joke is that, tuning a EV is about as fun as souping up a drying machine. Adding Ev enhancements to ICE is a wise transition but dropping the V8 suddenly would alienate Mopar people to a point that would be unrecoverable.

A tune adds about 30hp (if lucky) to a 392, anything extensive voids the warranty. A tuner for an EV can unleash serious power - no different than when Tesla releases things like "ludicrous mode" over the air. Rather than waiting - just do it yourself. The new plaid runs 9.20's @ 150mph stock, the car probably has 8.90's already in it. Free power that just needs to be unlocked. Ability to make the car RWD to do burnouts, then switch back to AWD and tune the power application. OR, void warranty, spend $25,000 you'll never get back ripping the engine apart to build a quicker car that blows transmissions. I see where the future is headed - the true gear heads will be doing motor, battery pack and controller swaps, which will also need tuning.

 

[TripleT]

A tune adds about 30hp (if lucky) to a 392, anything extensive voids the warranty. A tuner for an EV can unleash serious power - no different than when Tesla releases things like "ludicrous mode" over the air. Rather than waiting - just do it yourself. The new plaid runs 9.20's @ 150mph stock, the car probably has 8.90's already in it. Free power that just needs to be unlocked.

Boring ….. 30hp??? Your joking that not the tunes the club members are doing and they don’t give a crap about warranty. Tesla is a fragile POS …. Club guys are going to want EV…. Call yourself a Charger fan while advocating it to be boring soulless appliance is counter the Mopar culture. Even with the announcement of EV model they got giant pushback and went on the defensive. Pretend all you want it not what drives the Dodge Image. Arguing for EV is a fundamental misreading of that culture. Added that this spirited driving drains them fast…. i am for Electric aids but not for destroying the brand

 

[ChargerFan1]

Electric aids are a silly, heavy and expensive band-aid straight out of 2008.

See an 8 sec EV in action

All this Croatian (now merged with Bugatti LOL!) tech (and ET) will be in the 2024 Charger